old dee 24,083 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Unfortunately you are not. Thanks for that redleg you have made my afternoon. Oh well I suppose he can help out at Casey next year Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks for that redleg you have made my afternoon. Oh well I suppose he can help out at Casey next year Doing what? Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 holding Cam's hand !! He would be better off holding Gillies hand as he can't play either. Pedersen at least has shown a bit especially at Casey. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 He would be better off holding Gillies hand as he can't play either. Pedersen at least has shown a bit especially at Casey.Gillies will be gone Redleg he is only on a one year deal.Pity Byrnes was not on the same. Amazing we made such an effort to get three players for Casey. I suppose we are helping our team develop players 1 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Being brutal, I can see Byrnes, Gillies, Jetta, Bail, MacDonald, Davey and possibly Sellar and Strauss leaving/retiring and maybe Jamar being traded. I think Pedersen stays another year as he is contracted for 2 more. Byrnes I would pay out and offer him a year at Casey playing/coaching. If we were offered a mid for Tapscott I could see him going. I think we will make at least 8 changes to the senior list. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Being brutal, I can see Byrnes, Gillies, Jetta, Bail, MacDonald, Davey and possibly Sellar and Strauss leaving/retiring and maybe Jamar being traded. I think Pedersen stays another year as he is contracted for 2 more. Byrnes I would pay out and offer him a year at Casey playing/coaching. If we were offered a mid for Tapscott I could see him going. I think we will make at least 8 changes to the senior list. Still reckon theres a spot on the board for you sir !! Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Being brutal, I can see Byrnes, Gillies, Jetta, Bail, MacDonald, Davey and possibly Sellar and Strauss leaving/retiring and maybe Jamar being traded. I think Pedersen stays another year as he is contracted for 2 more. Byrnes I would pay out and offer him a year at Casey playing/coaching. If we were offered a mid for Tapscott I could see him going. I think we will make at least 8 changes to the senior list. This is getting really serious Redleg, I am in total agreement again.Davey and Macdonald are past it and the rest never where. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Still reckon theres a spot on the board for you sir !! Yes that is 2 votes bb Quote
Red and Bluebeard 2,101 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Yes that is 2 votes bb Mine makes 3! Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Mine makes 3! Is this what Kevin Rudd feels like? Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Being brutal, I can see Byrnes, Gillies, Jetta, Bail, MacDonald, Davey and possibly Sellar and Strauss leaving/retiring and maybe Jamar being traded. I think Pedersen stays another year as he is contracted for 2 more. Byrnes I would pay out and offer him a year at Casey playing/coaching. If we were offered a mid for Tapscott I could see him going. I think we will make at least 8 changes to the senior list. I forgot Troy Davis, but I think they will keep him for another year. He is a big strong boy who is hard at it and if he can improve his kicking, is a chance. Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Rodan has shown enough to get another year. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 I forgot Troy Davis, but I think they will keep him for another year. He is a big strong boy who is hard at it and if he can improve his kicking, is a chance.After all the agreement of earlier today Redleg trouble is on the horizon.Davis's kicking ability will go the same way as Mckenzie, Nicholson and G Mac. IMO poor kickers generally stay that way. Average kicks can etch out an AFL career poor ones do not. Replace them with players who can kick, they just break your heart and keep you anchored in the bottom half of the competition. 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Is this what Kevin Rudd feels like? Not anymore! Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 After all the agreement of earlier today Redleg trouble is on the horizon. Davis's kicking ability will go the same way as Mckenzie, Nicholson and G Mac. IMO poor kickers generally stay that way. Average kicks can etch out an AFL career poor ones do not. Replace them with players who can kick, they just break your heart and keep you anchored in the bottom half of the competition. we have to kick this habit of nursing bad-kickers til we eventually off load them anyway. Dont draft anyone who cant bloody kick!! Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 Dont draft anyone who cant bloody kick!! Hard to argue against that. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Hard to argue against that. Yet something so simple has NOT been overly observed to date. Beggars belief really 1 Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Yet something so simple has NOT been overly observed to date. Beggars belief really I guess bb and Redleg when you get to the point in the draft when Nicholson, Mckenzie and Davis were selected you are getting to the bottom of the barrel. They would not be high / Rookie picks if they were perfect.If Mckenzie was a good kick he would have gone in the first round. If only he could kick!!!!!!! Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 But the thing I simply dont get is how ANYONE gets to the point of being in the draft, being considered for AFL ( the highest level of the game ) and cant f'n kick a ball. How does this occur An analogy being a stool, surely kicking is one of the legs, without which it falls over. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 But the thing I simply dont get is how ANYONE gets to the point of being in the draft, being considered for AFL ( the highest level of the game ) and cant f'n kick a ball. How does this occur An analogy being a stool, surely kicking is one of the legs, without which it falls over. The same thing makes me wonder too bb.However I think it has a lot to do with the size of the player pool required for the AFL level now. With the addition of two new teams we have had to find a min. of another 80 players. IMO these players would not have made the cut in years gone by. IMO the talent pool is now stretched too far. Quote
Red and Bluebeard 2,101 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 The same thing makes me wonder too bb. However I think it has a lot to do with the size of the player pool required for the AFL level now. With the addition of two new teams we have had to find a min. of another 80 players. IMO these players would not have made the cut in years gone by. IMO the talent pool is now stretched too far. That is one factor. Another is the difference between kicking per se and kicking under pressure. I suspect the latter is a lot more difficult. Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 That is one factor. Another is the difference between kicking per se and kicking under pressure. I suspect the latter is a lot more difficult. Watch Davis at training R & B IMO he is no better then than on game day. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Watch Davis at training R & B IMO he is no better then than on game day.he wouldn't be alone either Quote
old dee 24,083 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 he wouldn't be alone either Correct but he is the most glaring example. Quote
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