On 17/10/2017 at 07:17, Dappa Dan said:

Fair enough. ie the Scott brothers.

And yeah. On the plus side Hundley's been there, what, 3 years? McCarthy at least knows his man. And his man knows the playbook. Romo would have been terrific fun... but Hundley is your best chance.

Romo or the Kap were never really in the picture ... one pundit was quoted as saying that it takes 3 years to properly learn the McCarthy playbook (as a QB)

However,  I often struggle with those sorts of comments as our game plan often revolves around Rodgers throwing the ball through the eye of a needle to a well-covered WR.  Apart from that, he occasionally hands it off to a RB.  And we're going to ask Hundley to do the same? 

Hundley has a gigantic job ahead of him and I wish him all the luck in the world - he's going to need it.  In terms of degree of difficulty,  Hundley has just been handed a very tough assignment. 

Your former coach (Andy Reid) is handling Alex Smith to a nicety ... now that is coaching.  Doesn't ask him to do too much and surrounds the bloke with all-around weapons.  I've always been a fan of Reid.

  On 17/10/2017 at 02:38, Dappa Dan said:

Everyone's worried about what it'll be like when the D start dominating. But the real news is that the offense and Goff/Gurley/McVay have created the buzz. Get used to it for the next 12-15 games. I love watching Rams right now, but don't get me wrong, I want Eagles to beat them. I keep secretly hoping pressure on Goff will make him wobble a bit, but he's getting it out so fast.

Looking forward to 7 weeks from now... How has Rams OL been? Them vs Eagles DL...

OL has been pretty bloody good which is a change. The new guys have protected Goff quite well, not only in blocking but opening lanes for Gurley so there is less rushing at Goff.

Kupp and Woods have been huge and whilst Watkins hasn’t caught much nor been targeted he is copping double coverage all the time. That will go to Kupp soon, what a rookie year he is having.

Joyner should be back this week, we have Cards at home then away to Giants who found some form. Could not believe they beat Denver there and Indy today blew it big time. Doyle should never be targeted as a receiver again.

Bad luck on Rodgers Macca, big loss.

 

  On 17/10/2017 at 07:31, Macca said:

Romo or the Kap were never really in the picture ... one pundit was quoted as saying that it takes 3 years to properly learn the McCarthy playbook (as a QB)

However,  I often struggle with those sorts of comments as our game plan often revolves around Rodgers throwing the ball through the eye of a needle to a well-covered WR.  Apart from that, he occasionally hands it off to a RB.  And we're going to ask Hundley to do the same? 

Hundley has a gigantic job ahead of him and I wish him all the luck in the world - he's going to need it.  In terms of degree of difficulty,  Hundley has just been handed a very tough assignment. 

Your former coach (Andy Reid) is handling Alex Smith to a nicety ... now that is coaching.  Doesn't ask him to do too much and surrounds the bloke with all-around weapons.  I've always been a fan of Reid.

Sure has. But he's a trenches coach. Always has been. Get the big uglies organised and the rest will follow. Only problem with that is there's a reason he's never won a big one despite being successful.

Back on Hundley, I look at a guy like Watson as a good marker. Doesn't play anything like the QBs that were starters ahead of him, but the coach adapted quickly. His line isn't anything to write home about, but he gets the job done. And I don't think it's right to say that Texas' receivers are better than GBs. Aside from Hopkins, they're not superstars. Where it falls down is that they have a pretty damn good run game with Foreman and Miller. I'm interested to see what GB do with Monty, who's shown plenty over the last couple of seasons, and Jones who's performed well in patches. The Giants lost 5 in a row, then decide to lean on the run game with a couple of duds... and look what happened there. It's all on McCarthy now as you say.

Here's another fun stat. Since 1992 (??!!) Green Bay have played 9 games with a quarterback not named Favre or Rodgers. That's insane. Just imagine how many QBs Browns have had in that time.

 

  On 17/10/2017 at 10:09, Gorgoroth said:

OL has been pretty bloody good which is a change. The new guys have protected Goff quite well, not only in blocking but opening lanes for Gurley so there is less rushing at Goff.

Yeah sweet. Gurley's uptick has been startling.

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by Dappa Dan

The NFC is an absolute crap-shoot now ... there's any number of teams who could win any of the 4 divisions.  In the South,  there's 2 or 3 teams.  In the North there's 2 or 3.  In the West there's probably only 2 in contention and in the East,  the Eagles are in the box seat but it's not done yet.  Dallas will start winning eventually and the Giants can play spoiler. 

The last time Rodgers did his collarbone the other 3 teams in the North couldn't take advantage and win enough games ... 9 wins might suffice but the Packers are up against it.  If Rodgers can get back though ...

The Saints are -4.5 favourites at Lambeau in the early odds and they might get on a roll ...and the Panthers are lurking.  That division could get really tight.  @ New England this week will be tough for the Falcons.

 

 

Leaderboard in the comp

4 - Dappa Dan

3 - JV7,  Clintosaurus

1 - Go the Biff,  Macca

0 - The usual suspects

 

A big 2 points on offer this week - it's time to make a move ...

 

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by Macca

  On 17/10/2017 at 10:22, Dappa Dan said:

Sure has. But he's a trenches coach. Always has been. Get the big uglies organised and the rest will follow. Only problem with that is there's a reason he's never won a big one despite being successful.

Back on Hundley, I look at a guy like Watson as a good marker. Doesn't play anything like the QBs that were starters ahead of him, but the coach adapted quickly. His line isn't anything to write home about, but he gets the job done. And I don't think it's right to say that Texas' receivers are better than GBs. Aside from Hopkins, they're not superstars. Where it falls down is that they have a pretty damn good run game with Foreman and Miller. I'm interested to see what GB do with Monty, who's shown plenty over the last couple of seasons, and Jones who's performed well in patches. The Giants lost 5 in a row, then decide to lean on the run game with a couple of duds... and look what happened there. It's all on McCarthy now as you say.

Here's another fun stat. Since 1992 (??!!) Green Bay have played 9 games with a quarterback not named Favre or Rodgers. That's insane. Just imagine how many QBs Browns have had in that time.

You make some very valid points.

I'm coming to terms with it all re the Packers but this upcoming game against the Saints might give us an insight into the short-term future of the team.

If McCarthy can somehow eke out a win first up with Hundley as the starter,  then I may entertain the thought of at least a 9 win season.  Lose it and we then front up to a Detroit team who will really fancy their chances (that game is at Lambeau as well)  1 win (however small) can make a load of difference. 

Oh,  and your thread is up to 200 pages.  That's quite an achievement Dappa considering the site is largely devoted to our beloved Demons.

  On 17/10/2017 at 11:05, Macca said:

You make some very valid points.

I'm coming to terms with it all re the Packers but this upcoming game against the Saints might give us an insight into the short-term future of the team.

If McCarthy can somehow eke out a win first up with Hundley as the starter,  then I may entertain the thought of at least a 9 win season.  Lose it and we then front up to a Detroit team who will really fancy their chances (that game is at Lambeau as well)  1 win (however small) can make a load of difference. 

Oh,  and your thread is up to 200 pages.  That's quite an achievement Dappa considering the site is largely devoted to our beloved Demons.

Oh man I forgot. I was on the countdown a week ago, and it slipped my mind. Well done NFL fans, and Macca for the tipping comp that's responsible for about 170 of the 200.

And yeah, I'm not saying it's all rosy. I just think wait and see. Funny things happen when the seconds come in sometimes. This is the first time in ever that Nelson, Adams, Ha Ha, and all their other good players can feel like the most important player on the team.

  On 17/10/2017 at 11:08, Dappa Dan said:

Oh man I forgot. I was on the countdown a week ago, and it slipped my mind. Well done NFL fans, and Macca for the tipping comp that's responsible for about 170 of the 200.

And yeah, I'm not saying it's all rosy. I just think wait and see. Funny things happen when the seconds come in sometimes. This is the first time in ever that Nelson, Adams, Ha Ha, and all their other good players can feel like the most important player on the team.

I would have thought that by now we'd have 15-20 regular contributors on the thread but there's still time. 

Quite honestly,  I really only pushed along the tipping comp as a way of attracting more people here ... it sort of works in a sense but the principle reason I'm here is to discuss all things NFL. 

I neglected to mention the AFC divisions in that earlier post but it's hard to see the Pats not winning the East even though they haven't hit their straps yet.  KC are also favoured to win the West but Denver may push them.  With Carr back the Raiders might get on a roll.

The South is definitely up for grabs (is Luck back soon?) whilst the North will probably come down to the Steelers or the Ravens. 

It could be one of those seasons like we've just had with the last 2 years of the AFL ... get hot at the right time and any number of teams can win it.

 

Edited October 17, 20177 yr by Macca

  On 17/10/2017 at 10:22, Dappa Dan said:

 

Here's another fun stat. Since 1992 (??!!) Green Bay have played 9 games with a quarterback not named Favre or Rodgers. That's insane. Just imagine how many QBs Browns have had in that time.

 

Pretty sure NFL live did a stat and browns had had 31. Not sure it went back as far as 92 tho. 

KC. Carolina, Denver

Falcons, Titans, Carolina

Yes for some reason I believe we win the SB rematch in Foxborough!

Zeke reinstated. lol

Forgot we are playing the cards in London... erggghhhhhhhhhhh

Carolina

Dallas

Denver

Monday nights game is the one I’m super keen to watch.

I was worried about our game being in London and giving away home field, but we are 1-2 in LA and 3-0 on the road...

go figure...

  On 19/10/2017 at 09:12, Gorgoroth said:

Monday nights game is the one I’m super keen to watch.

I was worried about our game being in London and giving away home field, but we are 1-2 in LA and 3-0 on the road...

go figure...

I read a stat somewhere that can't be right. Something like 60% winning away percentage for all teams.

  On 19/10/2017 at 09:31, Dappa Dan said:

I read a stat somewhere that can't be right. Something like 60% winning away percentage for all teams.

Its been an insane year. Wouldnt surprise me tbh.

45 Home wins, 46 away wins

Is what  I counted. 

  On 19/10/2017 at 10:19, Gorgoroth said:

45 Home wins, 46 away wins

Is what  I counted. 

Wow. I wonder what it was a week ago? Maybe that's what I was looking at.

That's a crazy stat. What's weirder is it might be the only sport that is absolutely certain to have a tangible home ground advantage you can use that the other team can't.

This game pits one of the NFL's oldest teams (Cardinals, NFL's oldest roster) against one of its youngest (Rams, 3rd-youngest roster). In fact, the Cardinals have an NFL-high 10 players older than Rams head coach Sean McVay, including QB Carson Palmer (37), WR Larry Fitzgerald (34), and RB Adrian Peterson (32).

From NFL.com... Brilliant. lol

Edited October 19, 20177 yr by Dappa Dan

  On 19/10/2017 at 11:12, Dappa Dan said:

This game pits one of the NFL's oldest teams (Cardinals, NFL's oldest roster) against one of its youngest (Rams, 3rd-youngest roster). In fact, the Cardinals have an NFL-high 10 players older than Rams head coach Sean McVay, including QB Carson Palmer (37), WR Larry Fitzgerald (34), and RB Adrian Peterson (32).

From NFL.com... Brilliant. lol

Hopefully they move like 80 year olds.... ha ha

New Orleans

Seattle

Dallas

Bloody entertaining game so far. Halfway through the second quarter.

Wtf was Lynch thinking? (Or not thinking more like it)

Yeah you just don't see that. I thought it was bad until I realised he ran all the way from the bench. Luckily Richard is doing ok so far. Keep scoring Oakland, make a game of it.

Both QBs 200 yards passing in a half.

  On 20/10/2017 at 01:54, Dappa Dan said:

Yeah you just don't see that. I thought it was bad until I realised he ran all the way from the bench. Luckily Richard is doing ok so far. Keep scoring Oakland, make a game of it.

Both QBs 200 yards passing in a half.

Yeah super dumb by Lynch. Such a great offensive game. 

Neither D, seems to be playing bad it’s just some crazy long passes.