To concede anything to Richmond now ...as a reward for inaction, stupidity and poor decisions would fly in the face of all the work that clubs like us have put in to get our selves straight and back on our feet and in the right direction.

Were Richmond blind to the impending monster called AFL expansion ? Did they not see the writing on the wall that we were able to read and act by ? Richmond rolled the dice their way.... now they can reap from what they sow !!

No instead reward teams that TANK. Your argument has more holes than an organic cabbage

no prizes for second lady.

No instead reward teams that TANK. Your argument has more holes than an organic cabbage

Richmond's woes have nothing to do with Tanking-Bad Management is always Bad Management.

Richmond's woes have nothing to do with Tanking-Bad Management is always Bad Management.

what club do you follow?

No instead reward teams that TANK. Your argument has more holes than an organic cabbage

you just dont like it that we played to minimise our wins...call it what you like.. go cry over there >>>>>>>

The system is what it is..you dont like it..tough [censored] mate.. I , the club nor others with esteem made it up..the AFL did.. they created the field of play. you want us all to be martyrs to YOUR cause..no way.

The AFL, again it was they, set up a situation whereby those ...etc etc.etc.. we all know the way it worked.. We , for a change played smart. We ( as a club ) took to the idea that all hell was .is about to let loose upon clubs bottomig out now and looking to rebuild.. , case in point Richmond. we headed calamity off at the pass, they didnt.

We didnt make up this can of worms... we just did the the best we could. that irks some.. I dont know why, maybe it would have been better that we and not Richmond are the basketcase !! Is that your suggestion Roost It ??

if there are holes.. kindly point them out..and argue otherwise..substantiate your counter point..dont just say sooki sooki lala..its all rubbish

what club do you follow?

The Mighty MFC double agent..and i was right behind what the club was doing for the last 2 years. After 40 years of barraking i want my team to have a serious crack at the Grail.

I take it you were not happy with the last 2 games? B)

you just dont like it that we played to minimise our wins...call it what you like.. go cry over there >>>>>>>

I never said this. I was happy for us to lose. My point is that you carp on about not rewarding bad management whilst the AFL happily rewards those who tank, including us. I'm not sure which is the lesser evil but I doubt it's Tanking. If Melbourne were in Richmond's position would you be singing the same tune. I doubt it. But off you go.

I never said this. I was happy for us to lose. My point is that you carp on about not rewarding bad management whilst the AFL happily rewards those who tank, including us. I'm not sure which is the lesser evil but I doubt it's Tanking. If Melbourne were in Richmond's position would you be singing the same tune. I doubt it. But off you go.

The biggest evil in any sporting competition is inconsistency. Whether it be with umpiring, player performance, rules, fixturing, tribunal decisions, drafting, salary concessions or anything else, the only thing that should separate the good teams from the bad are those who know the rules and are able to play to them. We, Carlton and other clubs did this with regard to the draft, but Richmond did not. I'm all for changing the rules to benefit Richmond - who will be incredibly disadvantaged in the coming years - but those rules must remain in place long enough for other clubs to benefit from them, otherwise any benefits granted cannot reasonably be argued to not constitute bias towards one club.

I never said this. I was happy for us to lose. My point is that you carp on about not rewarding bad management whilst the AFL happily rewards those who tank, including us. I'm not sure which is the lesser evil but I doubt it's Tanking. If Melbourne were in Richmond's position would you be singing the same tune. I doubt it. But off you go.

Richmond have had loads of oportunities to sort themselves out over the last decade...They made Bad decisions...Bad Management...Why should the AFL compensate them for that?

If i followed Richmond now, i would not want compensation-i would want the club to sort out a Decent Business Plan once & for all & stick to it.

Don't think for a millisecond (one thousandth of a second for the lay-persons out there) that the majority of supporters at any club would give one toss about us if we were in Richmond's position. In fact, we have been in that position many times over the past 40 years (at least). All we ever got was shitty media coverage (remember trying to glean the details of our weekly demise on 3DB amidst the constant switches to Randwick for the 4th?), contempt from other clubs' supporters, commentators, and more recently, a pile of f-you's from elite players doing anything they could to avoid playing for our club. In short, we got nothing. We had to beg our supporter base to donate thousands or even millions of dollars to save us from an ignominious fade out to non-existence. We had to get our larger-than-life Jimmy Stynes to come back and lead us out of the darkness, despite the fact that he was already flat out with a family and a huge charity organisation.

Think about Fitzroy and how much you really give a toss about what happened there and how much you miss them and think about them each footy weekend. Their supporters do.

So frankly, stuff Richmond. They last won a flag in 1980. At least I was alive at that point.

No more of this detached upper-middle class pseudo-objectivity. Come on chaps, fair go. Tally ho. Rally Demons. etc. Until we get a bit of mongrel in us as supporters, we can't ask our team or staff to do the same.

I hope we absolutely bury the Tiges on Sunday. I'll be spewing with anything less than 8 goals. If you feel differently, go have a quick look at the Yellow and Black website and see what they have to say about their far superior (yet just a little out of form) midfield compared to ours, and how they'll have us covered in a couple of years.

Their hearts aren't bleeding, so why should ours?

It's time to draw a line in the snow.