As I am sure most of you fellow demonlanders have, a couple of mates who love to give the Melbourne Football Club [censored].

I can normally take alot of it, but when it comes from a Richmond supporter the morning after they get embarrased by a weakish Carlton side.

He says that we will still win the wooden spoon and they are head and shoulders infront of us, and all I can do is laugh.... and here is why.

We have a heart and we will win thanks to that heart that beats through all of our players... besides one who I will not name...

Your thoughts on why we are a better side? Please, just to give me some ammo

As I am sure most of you fellow demonlanders have, a couple of mates who love to give the Melbourne Football Club [censored].

I can normally take alot of it, but when it comes from a Richmond supporter the morning after they get embarrased by a weakish Carlton side.

He says that we will still win the wooden spoon and they are head and shoulders infront of us, and all I can do is laugh.... and here is why.

We have a heart and we will win thanks to that heart that beats through all of our players... besides one who I will not name...

Your thoughts on why we are a better side? Please, just to give me some ammo

relton roberts, ben nason

that is all

Richmond were the worst side in the competition last year and nothing has changed. They still have the same players and all they have done is include a few young kids mentioned above.

Richo was their talisman; and he is gone and not in any way replaced.

How have they improved since last year? Simmonds first ruck, they're kidding. Riewoldt a key forward, give me a break? The only thing they have done correct is to not select our saviour Jordon McMahon.

they need to recruit a forward from elsewhere, Richo was class on field and losing him with Bowden etc put them in the opposite direction

How old is Simmonds now , he looks 40 on the field

I'm not covinced they're any worse than us.

Probably a more worthwhile discussion to have at 5pm on April 18.

I'm not covinced they're any worse than us.

This commentary says why Richmond were bad and not why the blues made them look bad. I only saw the first half - Looking at the blues strengths Krueser looked awesome - Warnock serviceable but useful. Their fleet of midfielders - Gibbs, Murphy etc outplayed Richmonds young guns (Nason et al) but Martin / Nason showed potential. The indigenous brother (who?) looked good on the wing at times / lacked defensive pressure. Waite was up and about more than expected particularly early. O'Halpin, Betts, Waite and co did the job up forward. The blues backline seems bland on paper but generally did the job though at times it looked as if a good tall forward would strech them. All in all I dont think the blues have progressed that much - they have convered Fev, found another forward. Still with Judd back they are a challenge for us.

Now - how would we do better or worse than Richmond? I am not sure that our rucks as they stand now would do better - if they were to breakeven I would be happy. I think our older brigade - Green, Bruce, Junior, etc is still a force whereas Richmond have largely pensioned-off theirs. Our midfield (non ruck) is probably an improvement on Richmonds some more mature bodies. Our defence would do better. Our best forward line is capable but not much better than Richmond's.

Not to be negative because bring back Sylvia, Morton, and Jurrah and bring in Garland and Austin and we start to have something quite exciting.

I would bet my house that if you ran a poll on opposition fans (and opposition coaches for that matter) for who has the more attractive list going forward, the demons would get up comfortably.

This year however, with our injuries particularly, I think Richmond aren't as bad as many have suggested. They have actually been gaining a lot of good young kids, and they got them a few years ago. Cotchin I would recruit in a second, Vickery is going to be a super player...

I think after today you any theory on us being better than Richmond looks like the ruminations of a deluded array of pathological exhibits...

based on the games each side has played we are the worst in the comp atm

No heart

No desire to win for team or team mate

No plan

limited skills

Pathetic

The upside is that we only have to wait until R4 to find out.