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I don't know how many were at the game, but whoever was on Davey, and it varied a bit, had a clear run on the turnover so many time I nearly popped a [censored]. He got caught ball watching sooo many times in the square when his man was running to the open wing. Did anybody else watch this game with me? Needs a good boot up the backside this weekend.

 
I don't know how many were at the game, but whoever was on Davey, and it varied a bit, had a clear run on the turnover so many time I nearly popped a [censored]. He got caught ball watching sooo many times in the square when his man was running to the open wing. Did anybody else watch this game with me? Needs a good boot up the backside this weekend.

It was Cameron Stokes on him in a defense role and what was actually happening was Hawthorn ran tight tags on Morton and Davey in our defensive half. This was to stop them getting the ball as link men at the point kick in and driving the ball into the centre corridor. Our game plan is to use the centre corridor and run the ball into our forwards quickly. However because hawthorn had huge numbers of players in the corridor at all times we were forced wide. Davey did not start the game as a forward and it is not his role to impart defensive pressure I believe thats is Petterd's role. Im not sure how you expect him to put on defensive pressure with a guy up him bum all the time. I understand we turned it over but what is he meant to do be reactive enough to anticipate the turnover and then bust his bum to chance stokes down when we make a howling error.

I thought his attitude was very poor for most of the game like many of his teammates. Our lack of defensive pressure as a whole was very poor. Sylvia was sensational and Bruce, Frawley and Warnock tried hard after that it was very hard to find another winner.

 
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Im not sure how you expect him to put on defensive pressure with a guy up him bum all the time.

He wasn't us his bum. He was 20 metres in the clear time and time again while davey was ball watching the square

Flash has never paid a lot of attention to his opponent, but if you doubt his attitude you need to re-watch his chase on Muston? when the game was dead. He ran 100m to chase and nearly got him after giving him a 20m head start.


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Davey did not start the game as a forward and it is not his role to impart defensive pressure I believe thats is Petterd's role.

It is everybody's role, when we don't have the ball

I don't know how many were at the game, but whoever was on Davey, and it varied a bit, had a clear run on the turnover so many time I nearly popped a [censored]. He got caught ball watching sooo many times in the square when his man was running to the open wing. Did anybody else watch this game with me? Needs a good boot up the backside this weekend.

One bad game in how many?Hmmmm

did you catch aaron daveys 100 metre chase on beau muston in the last quarter?

 
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did you catch aaron daveys 100 metre chase on beau muston in the last quarter?

Yes. When the game was long gone. And the cue was well and truely in the rack.

I thought they figured us out a bit. really clamped down on davey morton and moloney. i think davey just might not have the tank to consistently play on the ball. Looked completely stuffed at times! But still thought he chased well, but we have to realise he cant chase that quick all the time!!


Clearly the Hawthorn plan was to niggle and annoy Davey all day. McGlynn did that job in the 2nd half, always prodding and pushing him even when the ball was 100 meters away, and also if Davey got a kick/handball, a Hawks player would always come up and needlessly hit/bump him, Roughhead did it at least 3 times in the 2nd half alone. Historically, Davey has not handled a super-hard tag at all well, one has to only go back to the game against the Hawks a few years ago when Osborne niggled him all day, and Davey ended up punching him and getting weeks. While he wasnt terrible today, Daveys output was fairly well restricted by the Hawks gameplan on him...

I watched the replay of the game ucanchoose, but making a statement such as Davey has no defensive pressure without any examples makes your argument lack any real substance. I think Davey has terrific defensive pressures and runs back to provide help better than most players. Regardless of the game being our of our reach, or in your case the "cue" back in the "rack", who else would have made that chase on Muston? I couldn't name one of our players and nor could you.

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I watched the replay of the game ucanchoose, but making a statement such as Davey has no defensive pressure without any examples makes your argument lack any real substance. I think Davey has terrific defensive pressures and runs back to provide help better than most players. Regardless of the game being our of our reach, or in your case the "cue" back in the "rack", who else would have made that chase on Muston? I couldn't name one of our players and nor could you.

You don't see these things on tv. watching the replay of the game would be useless.

I think this thread is a bit unfair to be honest. Davey still had an important impact today, he may not have been as damaging as usual, but I'm glad he played. He still put on tackles, ran to receive and set up play. Some people don't seem to realise his importance to the team. If you don't have someone running by for the handball and setting up play, the style of play we play, then it's never going to work. Despite the close attention thrust on Aaron, he still managed 17 touches (14 of them kicks) and set the play up numerous times.

IMO Davey has the best defensive pressure in the side, easily. He's the one chasing every time.


I thought they figured us out a bit. really clamped down on davey morton and moloney. i think davey just might not have the tank to consistently play on the ball. Looked completely stuffed at times! But still thought he chased well, but we have to realise he cant chase that quick all the time!!

Thank you Peter that was exactly what i said they put hard tags on Morton and Davey

Yes. When the game was long gone. And the cue was well and truely in the rack.

The game was over at half time!

I was pleased with the effort the boys have put in running out games, it is much improved than last years owell we've lost attitude.

Daveys 100m chase was one example of this. Today he had an average but serviceable game with a heavy tag on him.

I thought they figured us out a bit. really clamped down on davey morton and moloney.

Agree with that. They really did their homework and the three guys u named have been far and away our best all year, yet all 3 of them had probably their least influential games for the season.

The days of a game being over at half time are over! teams that put the cue in the rack are arrogantly playing into the hands of their next opponent. Let me get this argument straight... The Demons had only a few decent contributors, our best player in 2009 was a dog and the fact that we were outscored by one point in the final three quarters was because the Hawks are so good that they rested 17 of their best!!!!


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