If we go by this year's stats alone the margin between Green and Bruce is very small indeed. Info courtesy AFL website.

Cameron Bruce / Brad Green

184 Games 186

22 2008 Games 20

11.1 Kicks per Game 13.6

13.0 Handballs per Game 9.3

24.1 Disposals per Game 22.8

6.7 Marks per Game 7.0

0.6 Goals per Game 1.0

0.6 Behinds per Game 0.6

3.5 Tackles per Game 3.0

0.1 Hit Outs per Game 0.1

3.3 inside 50's per Game 3.4

0.4 Goal assists per Game 0.6

0.9 Frees per Game 0.8

0.6 Frees Against per Game 0.8

$390,800 Dream team Salary $391,300

96.7 Dream Team score per Game 97.4

$461,700 Supercoach Salary $472,700

95.9 Supercoach Score per Game 99.0

So looking at all these, it's Greeny by a whisker for this year's B&F. We'll know soon.

I'm tipping Cameron Bruce, given his stats and the fact that he's the Captain and the only guy who played every game this year. Do you have the stats on contested possessions for the two?

I'm tipping Cameron Bruce, given his stats and the fact that he's the Captain and the only guy who played every game this year. Do you have the stats on contested possessions for the two?

Where's the stat for effective disposals?

Anyone who uses "stats alone" to judge players performances really has no idea.

I expect the top four to consist of Green, Wheatley, Bruce and McLean. That's not my top four but what I expect the top four to be.

I'm tipping Cameron Bruce, given his stats and the fact that he's the Captain and the only guy who played every game this year. Do you have the stats on contested possessions for the two?

No 'Chook' they have not listed contested possessions which I believe is a very important stat. Don't know why these are not recorded.

Anyone who uses "stats alone" to judge players performances really has no idea.

I expect the top four to consist of Green, Wheatley, Bruce and McLean. That's not my top four but what I expect the top four to be.

In case you are having a go at me Clint I did say, 'IF one goes on stats alone.....'

In case you are having a go at me Clint I did say, 'IF one goes on stats alone.....'

I wasn't having a go at you.

And I agree that Green and Bruce will both poll well.

I wasn't having a go at you.

And I agree that Green and Bruce will both poll well.

Thanks mate!

I'm tipping Cameron Bruce, given his stats and the fact that he's the Captain and the only guy who played every game this year. Do you have the stats on contested possessions for the two?

CP Clg CM 1% for year (you do the math, as they say )

Green

110 49 16 38

Bruce

146 43 10 41

CP= contested possessions

Clg=clangers

CM= contested marks

1%= 1%ers

So looking at all these, it's Greeny by a whisker for this year's B&F.

Looking at those, it's Bruce by a whisker, IMHO.

Looking at those, it's Bruce by a whisker, IMHO.

I'd agree. And the fact that he was named co-captain should seal it for him. I wonder what Yze_Magic thinks about all this.

Green will deservedly win the B and F by a country mile.

if Bruce wins, our club has hit its lowest ebb in its 150 year history.

Accurate voting by the coaches should see him finish 15th-18th.

Top 5

1. Brad Green

2. Colin Sylvia

3. Paul Johnson

4. Cale Morton

5. Brock McLean

Was a 2 horse race between Brock and Green until Brock got injured, so Green should win comfortably IMO.

For Bruce, obviously 14th to 18th is a bit low YM, but IMO he should not finish in the top 5, although he probably will.

Green will deservedly win the B and F by a country mile.

if Bruce wins, our club has hit its lowest ebb in its 150 year history.

Accurate voting by the coaches should see him finish 15th-18th.

Top 5

1. Brad Green

2. Colin Sylvia

3. Paul Johnson

4. Cale Morton

5. Brock McLean

Ha, bloody ha,ha. Put Sylvia in the 15-18 spot and you'll be closer. Bruce yourself YM. Sorry, I meant BRACE yourself! You could be in for a disappointing evening my totally BIASED and BLIND one.

Ha, bloody ha,ha. Put Sylvia in the 15-18 spot and you'll be closer. Bruce yourself YM. Sorry, I meant BRACE yourself! You could be in for a disapointing evening my totally BIASED and BLIND one.

MFC is the only club that rewards soft, unskilled players so you are probably right.

MFC is the only club that rewards soft, unskilled players so you are probably right.

And this is the only forum that seems to reward you, fat boy!

Take the stats and FU moron !!

And this is the only forum that seems to reward you, fat boy!

Take the stats and FU moron !!

Stats hey?

Well ok, on that basis here are some trades the Demons should do using your severe lack of football knowledge.

Send pick 1 to Carlton for Andrew Carazzo

Send pick 17 and Ricky Petterd to West Coast for Matthew Priddis

Send pick 19 and Aaron Davey to Essendon for Jobe Watson

Anyone who uses "stats alone" to judge players performances really has no idea.

Correct Clint Bizkit, my man.

Stats = objective

opinion = subjective.

Anyone can watch a player and have a different or diverse opinion. I would view a high percentage of similar subjective judgements over stats as a superior analysis of a player. There is still an "X" factor.

But of course, Y_M will remain an "F" factor.

ology bnf

74 - Brad Green (27) (9/20)

62 - Brock McLean (22) (8/14)

58 - Colin Sylvia (22) (8/18)

56 - Cale Morton (18) (6/19)

52 - Cameron Bruce (28) (6/22)

47 - Brad Miller (24) (6/19)

44 - Matthew Bate (21) (5/15)

43 - Paul Johnson (23) (5/16)

42 - Nathan Jones (20) (5/21)

36 - Chris Johnson (22) (5/10)

36 - James McDonald (31) (5/19)

33 - Simon Buckley (21) (5/14)

34 - Aaron Davey (24) (4/15)

30 - Matthew Whelan (28) (4/12)

29 - Austin Wonaeamirri (19) (3/18)

land bnf

90.934 Brad Green

78.366 Brock McLean

65.765 Paul Wheatley

64.074 Cale Morton

61.772 Cameron Bruce

54.305 Brad Miller

50.729 James McDonald

46.165 Colin Garland

45.722 Colin Sylvia

42.742 Chris Johnson

40.082 Austin Wonaemirri

40.027 Paul Johnson

37.927 Matthew Bate

31.490 Aaron Davey

30.457 Simon Buckley

Has to be Green. Wonder how high Morton will actually get?