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That's why I asked Roos, tried to get the thinking behind it

You asked for more information, I asked Roos the question and I just posted what he told me, maybe with a bit of paraphrasing, don't really care what other posters think especially Colonel Blimp and his chief cheerleader, keep saying you are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine As for Jesse, we will have any contingency covered

Byrnes is on the welfare side, think he wants to be Footy Operations ie Mahoney and Crossy is on the fitness side ie Misson

I asked him to his face chap, coz I was interested in whether it was just media speak, the answer was along the lines of what his mantra has been 'it is us, you either want to be one of us, or you don't" said it would harm the culture if he was seen to be playing somebody who going forward didn't want to be there, also Frawley turned up to training and games fully invested, in other words he didn't give the impression that he had made up his mind to leave. I have stated before I don't think he (Frawley) knew what he was going to do till the season ended, and then Hawthorn said 'come win a premiership'

A lot on here don't deal with a wide range of circumstances, they are girding their loins for the eventuality of Jesse leaving, and then we can have a couple of hundred pages of 'I told you so', if he leaves you do realise the sky will fall

Then I'd say you have never listened to Roosy in the media, or spoken to him personally I am one who trusts the Footy Dept, if Jesse leaves, they will have plans a to whatever in place for any eventuality

I agree chap, not sure about Hanley, maybe it is because of the season the team had, but bit like Dunny seems to have stalled, although maybe a new start, but do we need another half back? Think a pick would be better

No not me chap, but conversations, like Brendan Mc is regarded as a doyen of development, both Allison and Egan are/were regarded as up and coming development coaches, maybe it may happen because Goodwin rates Egan more than Allison

Yes I understand that, and most posters want MFC to be more ruthless, but that is pushing the envelope and not a good look, although assistants move all the time, discussions I have had has Egan/Allison on same level as development coaches, Roos cherrypicked Allison for this very reason

It says on the club website that the development team has been restructured and Allison wasn't offered a new contract, would seem a bit strange if we then hired Egan in a development role?

They will only help to 'enhance' the performance of the club as a whole?

Exactly, and you don't have to agree with it, like I don't agree with others, nobody knows who is right or wrong because of the whole schamozzle being handled the way it was,. Only joined this thread to say whatever has happened in the past is exactly that and Melksham should be treated like the rest on the list, with a clean slate, but Colonel Blimp joined in with his non construcive two or three word posts. Thankfully what followed was robust debate, others have said let's move on so let's do that Used the name because that particular poster only seems to understand that particular type of post

The point I am trying to make, and others have said it may not be correct, which I can live with is If the substance they allegedly were injected with was definitively proved to enhance performance, which I don't believe has, then they cheated If, the scenario, I believe is true, they were conned into taking a banned substance, banned because the drug agencies have no idea what they are doing and blanket ban everything, the lack of consistency across all sports in dealing with drugs in sport, shows a lack of faith in these agencies Then they are guilty of nothing more than being stupid and naive, but still have had to wear the consequences of their actions or non actions As Daisy said they were also supposedly offered a smaller ban, why, supposedly the drug agencies had a strong cae, why cut a deal, hence my jaundiced view of the agencies and the organisations such as the AFL

But the reason the above is occurring is because people have differing opinions, nobody is right, although they may think they are, as nobody knows the whole story I have a very jaundiced view of both sporting organisations and the drugs in sport agencies, there are always too many personal agendas at play

So what you are saying is that because some don't agree with your opinion, they are disgusting. I think the players were stupid and naive But I am yet to be convinced that the substances they were injected with 'enhanced' their performance during the season So I'll disgust away I think what the last few pages have shown is that Demonland is capable of robust discussion without resorting to name calling or petty childishness (apart from a couple) , which for me is refreshing

It's not theory chap,, it's being on this dustbin we laughingly call our home, and reading, watching, listening etc to what has occurred over the last 64 years I have had the privilege the share the oxeygen with others. If there is a dollar to be made, ethics and morality are quickly sold

Oh yeah right, sorry you are speaking to an old cynic, the Swiss Federal Tribunal, let's not find against organizations that are based in our.country and add to the economy please we want them to stay here

Oh CAS, the 'court' set up by that well known leader in ethics and morale behaviour in sport, the IOC, they had to do something, there were too many sportspeople being dobbed in and they had sat on their hands for so long. You know to appeal a decision by CAS, you have to go to the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland, now that will be a cheap process for an Australuan based athlete Will never change my opinion that Jake was a naive footy player in his early twenties who was set up by a snake oil salesman and a narcissist Posters on here will be telling me FIFA is not corrupt next

It is all GA, $20 adult, $1.50 kids under 12, concession $15, Ticketmaster or at the gate

Seen Hodge do it quite a few times, would have in the team in a heartbeat

Watching on tv chap, just cleaner with the ball, and getting to the contest in numbers

Sorry Grumpy........thought calling something pathetic was going the man as well?...maybe not.

No it's not the mark was taken, what do you think teams like Sydney, Geelong and Hawthorn do, the first two are still in the finals

We want to be a ruthless team, love tap, shows the team won't be messed with

Show me some of your rushes, will let you know whether there is a moment in there that some would regard as pathetic No just commentary on a game, with keyboard heroes who have never made a wrong decision in a footy game, get over it