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Thats gold chap, but you need to read more, like SwordMolar's critique of the West Coast midfield or Andrew Gaff's musstaken identity, or page after page of 'discussion' over unsubstantiated rumours over Jesse, wouldn't miss it for quids

Expect to see him line up for Swan Districts in the WAFL next year

Nah Vlad was in charge then, you spoilt your own 'joke' I have long deleted it but seem to remember it was along the lines of ensuring the long term future of the game

That's my point, everybody sits on their hands and does nothing and then whinges about the consequences, I at least tried to do something, futile as it turned out to be, I actually got a reply from the AFL by the way

That's the issue though, if we get Dal Santo for a year, he could put a kid back a year by occupying his spot, or if the kid overtakes him then Sal Santo ends up like Dawes, leadership sitting at Casey

He was comparing, well actually denigrating, we all know Harmes is not Dal Santo at this stage, but who knows what he may develop into..................I'm with this guy

Petracca after a full pre season, I hope....

Comparing a guy with 322 games against one who has played 27?

Think he will end up at the Pies, but whatever, eight pages, will back him in if he lands with us

What? does Dal Santo live in Williamstown, never recruit anybody from across the bay Think you are confusing your Hitlers, Eddie is the one with the maniacal laugh

I understand the sentiment Wise, but I have seen and heard all this before, in Liverpudlian 'it is all mouth and trousers', if people don't like something do something about it, I do, I question everything. I hate where the club has been in the last ten years but I try and do my little bit to help, I am sure others on here do as well, but some just whinge and sit on their hands no respect for them at all ask my opinion on anything you will get the answer not [censored] or group think

Then where were the thousands of supporters demonstrating outside of AFL house demanding that this didn't happen. I felt so strongly about the concessions given to GWS that I sent an email to both the club and the AFL. Was I a lone voice, who knows, diid anybody else on here. I understood what it might do to the competition This is what I love about this board, looking forward to the next AGM there should be lots of questions from the floor NOT

Unfortunately because of the position both financially and footy wise, the 'weaker' clubs were in when tthe expansion clubs, particularly GCS and GWS came into existence, the administration of those weaker clubs had to bend over and accept whatever was offered to them. We are now wearing the consequencez, unfortunately it will take more thsn a couple of clubs to make change, and this isn't going to happen any time soon as each club has its own agenda If we had been better prepared like Geelong and Hawthorn we wouldn't be even discussing this we would be discussing an upcoming final, but hey hindsight is a wonderful thing

See you are wrong and Bonkers doesn't have to resort to name calling, he has a point of view and has explained why he has that view, I respect that, but in parts I don't agree with it,. But he has the right to have that view, you may find it interesting or maybe not, to note that even though I don't agree with him I don't feel the need to call him a fool or a troll. You say I am arguing from a position without strength, why because you don't agree with it or are there other reasons

What I think from reading some posts is that some would still prefer a 10 or 12 team league playing in Victoria on suburban grounds,. We have gone past that, and whatever anybody thinks, whether they like it or not, and I am not a fan of the AFL either, some of their decisions baffle me. Broadcast rights money rules, it's the same across all major sports now, so unfortunately we have to wear the consequences if the game is to survive and thrive. Even if clubs have 70000 members the money from them doesn't cut it these days, doubt the membership revenue for MFC would even begin to cover the costs of the Footy Dept, neithet does the sponsorship money from the local real estate agent Sponsors want to see their name on TV, Western Sydney is a massive market, so everything good and bad was done to establish a foothold, we have to live with it I support Everton in the Premier League have since I was 5 so a long time always hoped not to see us owned by an oil baron or the like unfortunately to survive that can't happen ,

No I am not downplaying to support my argument, I just think the impact of the academies is overrated, in my opinion, the good thing about this thread is there is some really good discussion going on without the usual argy bargy (with one exception of course), readers and not posters are able to get both sides of the argument to form an opinion themselves if they haven't already got one, exactly what a discussion board should do With GWS, they have shown that it will happen if most things go right, and they work at it, GCS have shown no matter the concessions it can be [censored] up big time, with things both in and out of their control, same with the other expansion teams, what if GWS follow the Brisbane model, a couple of glittering premierships and then a mighty crash and burn, who knows?

Yes but my point is, Heeney and Mills are two shining examples of the Sydney academy, but that is two in 6 six years, it is not the goldmine it is made out to be, it is like any drafting/academy/father-son selections, not all will turn to gold......we have a good recruiting team in place, I expect them to keep finding nuggets for us as well

Nah too right wing for me, maybe Thatcher, reckon she would have been a bit like Selwood, nah I was totally against us getting Dawes at the time, could see why were doing it, but supported him, support whichever 45 or 6 are on the list each season, even if I don't agree with them being there

Mmmmmm methinks this thread is looking towards the grassy knoll...although there is some smoke http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-clubs-warn-against-kneejerk-changes-to-draft-bidding-system-20160711-gq3cy2.html

We bid for them during the draft but lost out, but because the old system was deemed biased they introduced the points system, so we do get a chance going forward to get academy products, let's not let facts get in the way of rants

Why do I have to, you have your rather bitter and twisted opinion, I don't agree with it, as it is a public board I am allowed to express it, feel like joining in with the proper debate as to why my opinion is incorrect?

I'm sure the other 21 on the field with him would really appreciate the second bit, I'll be ageist, too old, if we do get him will support him 100%

And what if he gets injured early on and with his age takes a while to get right again, we think this is the malaise that hampered Vince in the second half and has affected both Dawes and Lumumba, if we are going to recruit 'mature age' 26 would be my ceiling as in Hibberd

The one knock on him I have he only folds back and is on the loose, he has always looked good where there are other guys in the engine room, don't think we will be recruiting this type of player any more, only players who can get their own ball

Give what Nasher and Macca posted a read, that about covers everything I was going to reply to you