Jara

great post

He must be doing something right. They've had 50 deaths, whereas those of us in the eastern states have had about 5000.

Hey Daisy My wife tells me they're having a real battle in the ED to keep people out of ICU - ie keeping them in bays, hoping they can be sent home. I gather they're really nervous about what's coming down the line.

I know there are a few doctors and other medical professionals on this site, and doubtless they know much more than me. But please.... My wife is a senior nurse in the Emergency Department of a major Melbourne Hospital. This has been going on for two years. She and her colleagues are absolutely exhausted, and extremely worried the health system is being overwhelmed. If that happens, there'll be consequences for us all: cancer patients, cardio, accidents ...everything. So please...don't describe sensible healthcare measures as 'restrictions on your freedom'. Don't come on here whinging about 'banning dancing'. Have you ever actually watched somebody doing the slow, horrible lonely dance of death that Covid causes? She has. And by the way, she and most of her friends are furious at what Morrison is (we presume) trying to do right now. It's just 'let it rip' under another name. Health care workers are being asked to put their lives at risk so that Morrison can win the next election.

Great - thanks Steve - will follow up - cheers

Afternoon all - just wondering if someone could give me advice about buying a DVD of the Grand Final. Couldn't see one at the Demons' Shop website (would love to have one that didn't include BT). Cheers

Hey Macca I've heard the comments from Coetzee about it having mild symptoms thus far, but I noticed both the Commonwealth CHO and Norman Swan warning that that may just be because most of the results have come from South Africa, which has a very young population. Let's just wait a few weeks then hopefully we'll know more.

no it's not

Don't trust the vaccine because they don't know what's in it. Yeah - like they know what's in a can of coke or a carton of KFC.

Ha ha! Why not? I'll have a go (after thinking that to play like he did all year is like winning a marathon, and about what a cunning bu&%#ger the big boy is) How did he win the marathon Maxy Maxy Maxy? He floated to the back of the field And jumped into a taxi.

Still being worked out, but from what I can see, having the virus gives you some immunity for 6-8 months. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-last-after-covid-19-what-we-know Vaccines and boosters the only way out. If you think you can depend upon your low BMI or your impressive pecs to get you out of this, you're cruising for a bruising. This bloody disease is like a heat-seeking missile - it'll seek you out, hunt you and your loved ones down. Every day we hear the various CHOs saying something along the lines of 90% of those hospitalized are unvaccinated. All those fools ( I mean the unvaxed, not the CHOs) are doing is providing a breeding ground for mutant strains. God help us all when they emerge.

Hey Webber - a really interesting post. You obviously know a lot more about it than I do, but I'm not sure it's just a matter of Labor lacking the guts. It's more a matter of our 'common-wealth' being eroded by years of progressively shrinking tax revenue and smaller government...ie they lack the money, not the guts. The latest tax cuts from Morrison, in which somebody on $200,000 will pay the same percentage as somebody on $40,000, will presumably accelerate the situation.

Yep, all of that. It was the recovery. A rare thing, such reflexes. Think of how much effort you put into going for the mark, and then to rebound like that. As John just said, it was the spark.

Wonderful topic. Still glowing, can't wipe the smile off my face. So many to choose from. Think I'll go for Fritta's. As Leave it just said, the recovery was amazing.

Waking up worn out with happiness. Thanks Melbourne - and thanks Demonland.

Long did a lot of good work in opposition to racism over the years, but he'd have to do a damn sight more before I'll ever forgive him for that. Happened right in front of me. Sickening.

Not sure what you're trying to say. I'm in favour of the public health rules, so of course I'm against public protests for virtually any cause right now. Professional epidemiologists may vary slightly in their views, but you'd have to go a long way to find one who'd support the anti-vax gibberish a few people have posted on this thread.

Hear hear. Please get this anti-vax crap outta here. Vaccines are the only defence we have against this disease which - as well as killing millions of people - is preventing most of us from watching live the best team we've had in fifty years, not to mention removing our home ground advantage. Anti-vax jerks are the reason we're in this mess. Interesting article by epidemiologist on the ABC website this morning pointing out that both of our recent surges have occurred in the wake of those massive fruitcake protests in the city.

I knew it was coming but it still hurts. Been a supporter for 60 years, member for over twenty. Best chance we've had for a flag in that time. Somewhere inside me was a quiet little prayer that the numbers would come down and we just might be able to sneak into The G. All gone because Morrison, unlike just about every other leader in the developed world, couldn't organize a vaccine and Gladys wanted a bloody picnic.

Hey Goffy Give your wife our love. What a job. Mine's doing similar - works as a midwife in a major hospital's Emergency Dept. My god, they're doing it tough. She's asleep right now, getting ready to do a night shift - and she'll have to wake up and see on the news that a bunch of morons are out there protesting for their 'liberties'. Liberties ...jeez, what's that even mean? Their god-given right to infect and kill their own grandparents.? You could add all their IQs together and you wouldn't get Tom Scully's father (sorry, I don't think I know exactly what that means either, but you get the gist - he was just the dumbest person I could think of when I wrote that sentence) Cheers

Good luck, Jaded.

Love this comment. That's about how I feel (including the bit about often feeling under-qualified to comment) Good luck to you (and to us all)

The genius who closed the Fairfield infectious diseases hospital? The Elliott [censored] on 3AW is worse. Dan Andrews could discover a cure for cancer and Elliott would be bagging him for putting oncologists out of work.

I'm just catching up with the day's news. Lemme get this straight. Berejiklian is suggesting we have to learn to live with covid? Ie Let it rip? This just after her state's been given the majority of the new Pfizer doses? Jeez... I didn't mind the extra shots going to NSW because that's where the worst outbreak is (even though that was partly her fault because of her pathetic lockdown), but it's a bit rich if they're going to vax up then let the rest of us suffer - especially Victoria, whose residents have suffered more than anyone.

Good luck, friend. Lockdown/s tough, but the alternative's worse. As someone else said above, the footy has been a pleasant distraction. Maybe we'll even see Max holding up the cup.