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Its one of the intrigues of 2019 for us...especially how he was playing for us at the end of the year. For mine, I play him over Omac. But theres pros and cons in that and I think its going to work itself out over the pre season.

People were crapping themselves about Melksham...and still going on about Lever. No doubt we'll be hearing about Hogan and May for the next 2 years also. Meantime the dees are going to give the 2019 flag a real shot. For mine our football club is in very good hands.

Herald sun P-man 1h agoOctober 16, 2018HIGHLIGHT Jesse Hogan update Alistair Paton Jay Clark reports Jesse Hogan’s management has refuted a report that the forward asked for an $8 million, eight-year deal to join Fremantle.

ouch!

Jesse hogans management reporting that they never asked for an 8 year deal?? what the actual [censored] is going on. My first thought. Perhaps that invention puts the heat on jesses manager and takes it off Jesse's so called character issues. So that if they dont get Jesse this year they can minimise the damage they may have caused him if they go again next year? Perhaps Freo were looking for a an explanation to give to fans. Perhaps someone is just spilling bullship stories. Jesse's manager coming out and denying it outs the heat back on them.

Completely agree. Really a wierd article . This little excerpt says it all "Hogan stands to make approximately $900,000 next year at the Demons so a jump into seven figures is not overly significant, but the Dockers began to smell a rat when Melbourne then came and asked for two first round selections as well." I mean what did they expect? Jesse has been greedy in going for that length of contract...but Freo could easily say to his manager "nope its strictly 4" without getting into ANY haggling with the MFC itself.

I think you may well be right..but Im not sure that "decision" is or was entirely in the clubs hands chook. Hogan has had a big say in this.

Would love to see them get bitten by this. Although in truth that may already have happened. I cant see their players would be loving what the club is doing at the moment...really has an amateur hour look to it. Doesnt bode well for club morale. IF ( and its a big if) Hogan and Lobb do get there...its not a great way to start is it. Welcome to the club boys.

someone suggested earlier that Hogan had been told he'd be training with the backs for 2019 and as such he wanted to look at other options. But Im surprised if the "go home" factor is totally absent and that he would be remotely open to going to the suns. Hard to believe that report.

lol... its a strange one isnt it. Every 5 pages or so the same comment would come up on this thread as well. its the lie that never dies!

For all of those wondering how Jesse will fit back in given he flirted with Freo, imagine how it will be for Neale and Freo if they don’t trade him. Neale has publically come out and said I don’t want to be at Freo next year! AND he’s a free agent at the end of 19. It’s way worse fr Freo and Neale than the dees and hogan. Not out of the realms of possibility, if Bell doesn’t trade him, that Neale consider sitting out fr the year. Hogan having an outstanding year, and Freo finishing bottom 3 with no Neale or hogan would be too delicious .

what are they saying?

If I were Jesse I would think that wraps up any thought of playing for Freo ever now. If they dont value him or want him then we all move on and they can stop bugging him every year. Imagine for a moment if Jesse is playing well next year and in the top 3 or 4 goalkickers...and the dees are in the top four. Imagine how dispirited the players at Freo will feel about this and how stupid Bell will feel. Plus they have dicked around the trade period for a week...joke of a club. Jesse to Freo is over for GOOD now. Jesse to WC might be in play next year more likely for players than picks or a mix. But lets see if we can Jesse back up and about after his foot injury and stamp his name as a dominant key forward.

Ok..but Im still really surprised that they're meeting in the middle of trade Week. Feels very last minute and another way to stall. But to be fair I really dont know how these things are usually organised.

You think they might have gathered together a little earlier than this hey. Somehow this seems a little shambholic to me. oh wait...the jesse deal...maybe we could get him...lets have emergency meeting of the board to see if we want him. This has been known for at least a month and probably more and theyve been chasing hi for YEARS. . As a side point...Seven smart people sitting together doesnt ensure a stupid decision wont be reached .

Beat me to it 11, He was tested A WEEK AGO....before he went to Bali. Circus continues.

The trouble is they got rewarded last year when they held out and then got pick 2 for Mav Weller. That stupid deal might have emboldened them. No way are we as dumb / deperate as GC were back then and no way will nay club be pressured by them after that.. So Bell can micromanage all he likes. In the end, If he stalls and then gets neither, he faces massive pressure himself. It would be an an epic fail to start off his tenure as recruiting manager..oops CEO. People will wonder why he got involved in the first place. If this starts getting close to the wire the heat well and truly comes back on him...ego or no.

so much revealed in the word "yet" isnt there. The only thing In our favour in that stupid article is that the value of Preuss is being talked down. Maybe theres really no such things as "news" in the media anymore...in politics or sport. maybe its ALL just opinions now and who can make theirs the loudest. Eg. Theres no envinmental issue....Yes, there is one...no there isnt etc. The more loud , more stupid and more opinionated the better for paper sales I guess. Depressing world we live in atm. Or maybe it was always like this and Ive just gotten old.

lol..good to have a laugh.

In your opinion do you think its a just part of negotiating tactics...or genuine cold feet

hmmm...Think we may have to get our heads back around him staying now by the feel of all of this. IF it goes the way Chook is flagging that it may, then Jesse would be well chastened . More determined than ever.

Apologies if this is already up here somewhere...I just cant bring myself to read back 15 pages when nothing has actually happened! Gary Buckenara in the sun said this about jesses value. " There is an element of buyer beware with Hogan, however, given he has a long history of injury and illness that would be of concern. Plus there are the attitude issues with his body language and negativity that have been well-documented.I don’t think he’s worth two first-round picks. I place his trade value at an early first-round pick and maybe a swap of second-round picks, but those injury and performance issues impact the Demons’ ability to get a sweetener" As much as I hate to admit it ( please dont shout at me) he may well be right. If i think of Oliver leaving its internal hysteria and wanting to two top 5 picks. Hogan is not affecting me and many here in the same for the reasons I think that Bucky lists.

agreed

I think Freo are playing hard ball with Neale so that pick is not actually on the table fr us to try to grab. They will let that trade go to the last minute. Why not? Suits their purposes to go slow but we, on the other hand, will need to act early if we want May. Probably means we will argue fr pick 5 and their next years first rounder.

I’m sure it’s been raised somewhere here and burnt down as a thought. But.... thinking back to Geelong and Dangerfield they traded a first rounder ( pick 9 ?) to Adelaide for him when he was a Rfa as gaff is now. Adelaide were threatening to match any offer but, aside from that, it also helped danger feel he was taking care of his old club. I’m wondering ( given we get 2 first rounders fr Hogan) if we made an offer of one of these picks to WC for Gaff. Especially given how his season ended with all the support he got, it might Help him choose us over others. In Dangerfields case it allowed the cats to pay unders in salary also and opens that possibly fr us too.