Ouch!

watching Moore play on McDonald.... slow motion train wreck. He is not up to it now or in the future. Good servant though We lost it in the first, we kicked poorly against them, but our entries into the 50 were horrible too. I don't see how we compete strongly next week with an even more compromised forward line against the Blues. That said I'll be cheering for the Swans!

It's even possible to do it whilst running at the player.... watch Hunter, he does it pretty often, thing is he turns his body the other way after jumping which puts the leading shoulder outside of the incoming player, so at most it would be glancing. Maynard jumped and turned into Brayshaw to created contact. His he was trying to smother, but he was also trying to be as physical as he could be early in the game to put physical pressure onto the dees. Just like Cox did at the first bounce to Gawn driving up the knee.

Yep 100% agree. I'm happy with VR, Fritsch and Petty. But there is not a lot behind them. Salem off half back needs to change too, and if we have McAdam next year. I'd prefer getting another quality mid and continue with Trac playing a little more forward. Add Kozzy, Chin and ANB and it's a good line up, problem is we didn't get them all playing together enough to be a cohesive unit. That all said, McDonald and Ben Brown (and possibly on a sadder note Melksham) are not part of our future. If Xavier Duursma is being whispered to be a possibility to move out of Port, lets throw Grundy and a pick at them, grab his brother too and we are stronger again.

Grrr Dangerfield commnents at the time. "Maynard has a duty of care to protect himself?" huh? no he doesn't no one has a duty of care to protect themselves!!! you have a duty of care to not injure other players THAT IS WHAT A DUTY OF CARE IS! A duty of care is a legal obligation (that we all have) to take reasonable steps to not cause foreseeable harm to another person or their property. Nothing that Maynard did aligns to a duty of care statement. If this clown is the best that the players association has, and they want him on the commission, the game's stuffed.

I was interested that it's now not just Christians call. Some AFL legal person is now involved in all referrals too?

whats a tackle? Technically a bump is a football act too, if thats the argument for suspension, anything is fair go, no one should be suspended on the field.

I agree with above and my take in addition. There was no one else around the ball to confuse what happened, no one got pushed or jostled around. Maynard didn't just jump upwards, he was jumping as he was running at speed towards Brayshaw. He mistimed things horribly. Still on him. Brayshaw did not deviate or do anything to cause the motion of Maynard to hit him unexpectedly. It's severe and high impact, the intentional or careless is debateable, but Maynard acted knowing that it had the chance of contact with Brayshaw and he braced in the air to protect himself.... I don't give a fat flying duck if it was a 'Footy Act' This almost enraged me more than anything else after it occurred, in that every damn commentator (including his uncle!!) used that as the excuse as to why Maynard should not be cited. A tackle is a footy act, can be reported for not executing that correctly. Having the pies chant Collingwood and cheer Maynard when he was near the ball just show what scum they are. If he was truly remorseful why remonstrate with any of the Melbourne players afterwards, get out of the area. That action has basically ended Gus's season, it certainly impacted our options in the game from that point on. Maynard got to play out the game, and to not even be cited would be borderline criminal.

I have no problem with that, but it MUST go to the tribunal. If Michael Christian doesn't even refer it then that will be my biggest concern.

The best thing McDonald can do is admit the game is past him and retire from the game…

Nothing like a bit of trash humour to distract people & their nerves Jaded! :)

Flacid Cox limp(s) off prematurely for Pies would be the winner!

Lets just hope we don't see "Pies big Cox stand up!" :

Keep a lid on it Jane and hopefully you get to enjoy the smug satisfaction of rubbing it in for the next few weeks after the game :)

Not really, I think the Pies are going in a bit tall.

Really? most people have Curtin, Reid, Walters going in top 3 from what i've seen Duursma is around the mark with Sanders, McKercher and the other GC academy picks. Unless something has changed recently?

Adrian Dodoro will make sure we can't. Pretty certain he'll be worth two 1st round picks, and some change. :D

Anyone who has even managed a single AFL game is a significantly better footballer than me, but in the scheme of targeting who to recruit, Rhys's disposal is ordinary, he's managed an average of 9 games per seasons being in the AF, never playing more than 15 games in one season. So, he still fits in that NQR category as an AFL player. He's a solid VFL player... West Coast won't improve by settling for players like Mathieson, oh and 'Beast mode' is a moniker that I'd attach to someone like Viney, Matt Rowell, Dangerfield (in his heyday)

Problem with Mathieson is that he thinks he's beast mode as well, probably refers to himself in the 3rd person when he talks too. NQR AFL standard player, West Coast needs a rebuild, not a re-tool. Go for Devon Robertson.

Just watching AFL360 NHL has a system where the review system can step in after a call that was incorrect, and they can reset the time and the score. That could have worked NFL has a system in place where no decision in the last 2 minutes of a game is made on the field without referring or direct communications with the review system Cricket has the captains call. I also didn't realise there were two other reviews on the weekend that were dubious at best, and yet the 'umpires' call is upheld. It's terrible, and it shouldn't be a scenario where we put the blame on the officials on the ground. That ump made a horrible decision, I feel sorry for the guy, but the rules and the processes should be better around him. If his decision COULD have been overturned he wouldn't be basically out of a job for the remainder of the year.

I'm not totally in agreeance Sue. Inconsistency in a game IS avoidable, it shows that the umpires aren't communicating with each other on the ground, and they can't decide how they intend to interpret the rules. Then you get started on the week to week inconsistencies, and the 'rule of the week' which seems to change each week based on the media bleating. But, the lack of a football boss for this whole season, contributes to thing that could be addressed like the fact that the AFL is basically the only major football code that I can think of in the world that doesn't have professional full time umpires. It contributes to the fact that the ARC system is feels hardly any better than webcam technology, and that it's ridiculous how the field umpire engages WITH ARC, but isn't seemingly able to ask for a review himself, it's only the goal umpires that can request the review, but then the field umpire gives the 'all clear' ... I don't think I was finished with my rant was I :D

Obviously obstructed view of the ball. Oh, and I think the pair of white shoes behind might have been another ump... so perhaps one got in the way of the other.... fair enough play on.

Isn't cost the reason why the AFL hasn't changed the notion of the sub in 2023? In that your sub is effectively dropped each week? They don't want to pay for the development, or something to do with Champion data means that it would need to be 'patched' and the AFL won't pay.

Warning: Incoming Rant: It's not just goal umpring! 4 umps hasn't made umpiring better, it's just made them less fatigued. Decision making hasn't improved with 4 umpires. In fact I think decision making has gotten worse. Boundary umpiring isn't any better, along with the two howlers made with Jeremy Cameron last week, Viney was clearly over the line, in clear sight of the umps, and they didn't blow the whistle and the ground ump called him for holding the ball. But it feels like this is another area where standards are not good at the moment. There are very few AFL umpires that can bounce the ball, and throwing the ball up at stoppages. Seriously why are they throwing the ball out 3-5m out in front of them rather than throwing it directly up in the air and exiting out the back of the contest. Why? Holding the ball is a subjective assessment that varies wildly not just from game to game but within a game... it's terrible. Bite the bullet and make umpiring a full-time profession, pay for ARC technology at all AFL grounds and get a Football operations boss!!!. Only positive umpiring thing I can say at the moment is that David Rodan is still smiling!, and since the dissent rule has all but disappeared so I can't be given a 50m penalty for this rant.

Article below suggests that for Nth to get a first round, the player has to fall within top 5% of rankings, across the AFL. Any club willing to pay that much for McKay is nuts! https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trades-2020-free-agency-compensation-formula-how-does-it-work-brad-crouch-adelaide-st-kilda-free-agents-details/news-story/538e998849aa96d921d7da512ff8793e Age is a factor too as you say.

Sorry, but Dunstan won't be in unless Viney, Clarrie and Sparrow all spontaneously combust.