Ouch!

His mum might not let Gus come out and play with us anymore! 😢

Just me or does this feel like there is no intensity? Players have space to move… nothing like last night.

Chook, watch it again. Maynard at the last moment moves to the right after a small shuffle step. Bradshaw doesn’t deviate his direction, he leans left as the shoulder comes right at him. Not sure how you see it as the opposite? The angle brings him right into Brayshaws path.

I would not be surprised if Laura Kaine does this for all decisions for finals…. Makes sense that all tribunal decisions get announced through her, but also allows her to make a commonsense ruling to override where Christian can’t make a call.

hope that you are right!

TBH Lazyie. I want this referred to the tribunal. I don't have a preconceived idea of what the suspension should be or shouldn't be, but I don't think Christian has the tools to assess it correctly with the framework that the AFL has put down. Ultimately it's High, and Severe contact. The intent is the only debateable aspect here.

Agreed, but Van Rooyen is going to get a week or two unfortunately. He looked at McStay, went past the ball and lifted the elbow, It wasn't a heavy hit. Not sure that we can deny that either. But agree with your assessment on Swannie :D

He didn't bump DrDrake he had a duty of care to protect himself.... didn't you listen to Dangerfield!! Shame!

So my interpretation (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/utterly-disrespectful-collingwood-chant-sparks-outrage/news-story/c3f29d6adbc38d608b3d11347dbef6ca) around 50 seconds or so into the video you get the behind the goals vision... he stutter steps and slightly changes course to the right before jumping of the ground. It's not huge change but still enough of a change to make Brayshaw not be aware of it.

pretty sure it's his season

Couple of things Layzie, Correct you won't eliminate contact completely, but we expect contact in a contested ball situation. Brayshaw was disposing of the ball, and had Maynard launch at him, and he did change his line just before he jumped and he knew he was going to make contact with the player. No one is saying you shouldnt' be able to jump up and smother the ball? (his apparent footy act) but jumping at a player knowing you are going to hit him high at speed? Not sure about that

Yup Just watching the front on video footage again, Maynard at the last second changes the direction he is running ever so slightly before jumping off the ground. If he had continued on that original line he wouldn't have made contact like he did to Brayshaw.

Do you seriously believe that he knew he wouldn't make contact with Brayshaw at top speed and by jumping that it wasn't going to be a hard hit? C'mon really? Brayshaw didn't deviate, and didn't even see him coming (and he was facing him) Maynard didn't just jump up to spoil as if he's manning the mark, he jumped into Brayshaw.

I see the actions of Maynard and the way we stuffed up our opportunities to win the game as two completely different things Macca. Whilst I do believe that this action caused a big disruption to the way we wanted to play the game, but it wasn't the reason we lost. Maynard did not have to make contact with the player. He chose to run directly at Brayshaw, jump into him and ultimately braced for contact. Brayshaw had no opportunity and was exposed due to what Maynard did. This contact was 100% caused by Maynard and jumping at speed and making high contact was entirely on him. To say he wasn't responsible for his actions because it's "a footy act" is wrong.

its the term you use when you can't find the words to justify the action.

watching Moore play on McDonald.... slow motion train wreck. He is not up to it now or in the future. Good servant though We lost it in the first, we kicked poorly against them, but our entries into the 50 were horrible too. I don't see how we compete strongly next week with an even more compromised forward line against the Blues. That said I'll be cheering for the Swans!

It's even possible to do it whilst running at the player.... watch Hunter, he does it pretty often, thing is he turns his body the other way after jumping which puts the leading shoulder outside of the incoming player, so at most it would be glancing. Maynard jumped and turned into Brayshaw to created contact. His he was trying to smother, but he was also trying to be as physical as he could be early in the game to put physical pressure onto the dees. Just like Cox did at the first bounce to Gawn driving up the knee.

Yep 100% agree. I'm happy with VR, Fritsch and Petty. But there is not a lot behind them. Salem off half back needs to change too, and if we have McAdam next year. I'd prefer getting another quality mid and continue with Trac playing a little more forward. Add Kozzy, Chin and ANB and it's a good line up, problem is we didn't get them all playing together enough to be a cohesive unit. That all said, McDonald and Ben Brown (and possibly on a sadder note Melksham) are not part of our future. If Xavier Duursma is being whispered to be a possibility to move out of Port, lets throw Grundy and a pick at them, grab his brother too and we are stronger again.

Grrr Dangerfield commnents at the time. "Maynard has a duty of care to protect himself?" huh? no he doesn't no one has a duty of care to protect themselves!!! you have a duty of care to not injure other players THAT IS WHAT A DUTY OF CARE IS! A duty of care is a legal obligation (that we all have) to take reasonable steps to not cause foreseeable harm to another person or their property. Nothing that Maynard did aligns to a duty of care statement. If this clown is the best that the players association has, and they want him on the commission, the game's stuffed.

I was interested that it's now not just Christians call. Some AFL legal person is now involved in all referrals too?

whats a tackle? Technically a bump is a football act too, if thats the argument for suspension, anything is fair go, no one should be suspended on the field.

I agree with above and my take in addition. There was no one else around the ball to confuse what happened, no one got pushed or jostled around. Maynard didn't just jump upwards, he was jumping as he was running at speed towards Brayshaw. He mistimed things horribly. Still on him. Brayshaw did not deviate or do anything to cause the motion of Maynard to hit him unexpectedly. It's severe and high impact, the intentional or careless is debateable, but Maynard acted knowing that it had the chance of contact with Brayshaw and he braced in the air to protect himself.... I don't give a fat flying duck if it was a 'Footy Act' This almost enraged me more than anything else after it occurred, in that every damn commentator (including his uncle!!) used that as the excuse as to why Maynard should not be cited. A tackle is a footy act, can be reported for not executing that correctly. Having the pies chant Collingwood and cheer Maynard when he was near the ball just show what scum they are. If he was truly remorseful why remonstrate with any of the Melbourne players afterwards, get out of the area. That action has basically ended Gus's season, it certainly impacted our options in the game from that point on. Maynard got to play out the game, and to not even be cited would be borderline criminal.

I have no problem with that, but it MUST go to the tribunal. If Michael Christian doesn't even refer it then that will be my biggest concern.

The best thing McDonald can do is admit the game is past him and retire from the game…

Nothing like a bit of trash humour to distract people & their nerves Jaded! :)