Ouch!

Salem good, not great. Sparrow was very good v Carlton a couple of weeks back, and having Petracca, Viney and Clarry performing, gives him some time, needs to lift though. JVR competed in the ruck even though undersized. So much more competitive than Schache.

I was wrong about TMac,... thought he was slow, just think it's slow to turn, so having him down back isn't too bad, and was good by foot.

Like... health, cost of living and the things that are issues everywhere that all State govts are managing so well? :) It will come down to that too, but the biggest thing in this election is the increase of the house from 25 to 35 members, and the fact that it's more likely than not to be a minority govt.

Correct, the ALP are being shown up as being even less 'transparent' than the govt on this, given that they are accusing of being the same in regards to the deal with the AFL. GWS and GC both had stadium upgrades being a component of coming into the league, this is no difference other than not being an AFL owned venture. Bec White 'claims' to have already opened dialogue with the AFL about not putting a stadium in place. Andrew Dillon has come out and said words to the effect that no conversation with the AFL has commenced with her to his knowledge and nothing has changed. She also believes that the 18 clubs have no say on the re-negotiations she has put on the table with the AFL. Bec White also at the previous election campaigned that if they got in, they would build a brand new 15000 seat stadium in Tasmania for Soccer, Rugby Union and Rugby League. Of which NONE of the sports have a national team from Tasmania. it's just pure hypocrisy. This is her third attempt to win a state election as the opposition leader, rumours are very strong that Labor expect to lose, and can't wait to boot her out so that a new leader (likely who will support a stadium) can take over. The former leader David O'Byrne is running as an independent and is pro stadium. The labor party could have potentially won this election if they hadn't played wedge politics on this issue. Tas Liberal Government for all the faults, has come out and said that it doesn't want the launch of the team this week to be a political football, and has asked all of the liberal candidates to not attend the launch and let it be about the launch of the team, and the fans, and the people.... and of course Bec White is absolutely wanting it to be political, and is attending and no doubt trying to show 'support for the AFL team.' Apologies for the rant!

The stadium, like all of the stadiums seemingly in Australia is being built around the dimensions of the MCG, so is the high performance centre at Rosny.

Richard Flanagan is put up as a shining beacon as to being a great Tasmanian. He's not an economist, he's a writer who is heavily focused on the environmental issues. He has no clue on this, and shouldnt' be speaking. He also is a proponent of an alternative use for the land, and as such is biased. Listen to someone like Saul Eastlake who at least IS an economist.

Correct, your response is selfish.

Wow, so much handwringing with Jefferson in a back pocket for a practise match in the VFL! It's common for forwards to play some time as backs to see leading patterns etc. Also consider: BBB and Fullerton are more likely to get a senior call up before Jefferson, possibly even this week against the dogs, they probably got priority as forwards for this match so we can see them as an option for round 1. Verral and KFW had the ruck duties, and TMac is playing as a back this year, that is where he trained all year, why would that be a surprise. Breathe people, you're gonna pop a blood vessel before round 4!!!

Agree, plus it's in a residential area, it has covenants for for noise, light and how long an event is allowed to run for, no options for public transport. Tas Cricket has already announced that they plan to exit the ground as well. Suburban grounds don't make good stadiums. A stadium needs to be close to the heart of the city.

Closed roof, no issue. Dark MOFO game between devils and demons would be a great thing.

Not only do they not have a clue, the leader has all but said that the 18 club chairs have no say over this, and it's between the govt and the AFL. There is only one party that has a clear position here with a handful of independents that are being really clear, Greens think that it can be based in Launceston, Labor is a hot mess, Jacqui Lambie is worse than a hot mess.

People saying he was limping at the airport, tbh it felt like he was proppy most of the night. It was an interesting selection call moreso because I feel like he, Billings, Laurie & Spargo feel like they should be fighting it out for 2-3 places in our team, not taking up 4 by themselves. Kozzie, McAdam (and hopefully Melk when fit) offer significant points of difference here. This isn't a slight on the players above, just they play I don't see how they all fit.

If he's not ready, you don't take him as one of the three emergencies for the game last night. He hasn't probably had match practise to the level we had hoped, but he should be ready to play.

Hmmm, understudy? 2 Copelands, 2 AA jumpers, yeah this guy is a complete novice! I don't know if Grundy's tactic at the centre bounce is a good look for the game, I thought that they had to stay on the other side of their line until the ball had been bounced, he was running at the player and not even looking at the ball at times. But he played ok, Gawn was ok too. I don't like the hits behind play Gawn still gets without penalty. People need to get a grip, one game in basically tropical conditions. We looked better in the first half than Sydney, yet couldn't score, they can address that through the week. We looked less competitive I thought after half time, yet we kicked 3 goals, and only trailed by 2 points. Ran out of steam in the last. Windsor looked good, Howes looked good after a couple of shaky possessions. Not a night for tall forwards on either side. but both sides struggled to score fluently until Sydney had that patch in the last.

aaaaand there is the MFCSS! Thanks 🤨

I am not sure Brown or Fullerton are likely to be named as the sub, I could be wrong, but aren't the AFL rules slightly different now that we name up all 5 on the bench as part of the full team 23. Which is a little different than last year where clubs name 4, then announce the sub on the day from outside the squad. Thanks to Champion Data! :) If either of these were being named then it's likely that they would have been announced at training as well with the squad you would have thought. So my guess is that the 23rd player will be from the existing 2023 squad as such.

are you saying Howes has bought your mood down? poor kid!

Far more likely we would have kept James Jordon IMO

Can we request Maynard to be dressed in sackcloth and walked through the streets whilst people throw fruit at him and hurl abuse?

Lets see if Collingwoods media team kicks another own goal and lets Maynard attempt to wish Brayshaw all the best. After the netball repurposing, it's certainly something that they are stupid enough to do. ..... Seriously though, if he comes out to say anything publicly, I'll do my nut.

Yep, I think it was more that modelling was done in regards to the business case (I actually think Clarko went over to explore models) some of the comparisons were size of city, stadium, membership models, etc. Again, Jack Jumpers, have full membership, capacity crowd (only admittedly around 5k seated I think) but that is better optics than a half empty stadium. That said, they are now working to increase capacity on a sustained level. Tassie 'Devils' team, 23k for a stadium, but both stadium models have capacity to go up to 30k, and one of them to 40k (I think) . If that is full most weeks, and for a closed roof stadium, it's going to be a better experience live, but also on TV too.

Yep, totally agree, however I think we are also starting to see more participants across a lot of sports coming from these migrant societies too, which is pretty exciting too.

If I read this correctly, you just have to have the last word on this matter because you don't value other people's thoughts as being valuable contributions on this thread? Gonna be really curious to see if you have to respond to this or not 🤐

Both populations are a bit higher now, especially when you look at both Greater Hobart Population (260k) and Greater Geelong (276k) The whole of Tas will get behind the team, but in terms of immediate population, I know what you mean, but in terms of access to feeder/talent pathways, I'm going to assume that for a few years, Tasmania will have first rights to the local talent similar to the northern states. But as a traditional football state I don't think that it would last all that long.

Personally, as a Tasmanian, I'm not super enthused by the design above. But in terms of history and tradition, it's akin to the Big V for Victorians. Tassie played as the Devils in the VFL, and our junior teams have been the Devils in the Coates League, national champs, etc.... It's probably a little lazy, but it's incredibly popular and nostalgia attached. I am almost 100% sure that a green jumper will be used, and likely to have yellow and red incorporated into it as well. Not sure I want the map or not though....