Jaded No More

I can’t begin to understand losing a parent and having cancer. Maybe if I went through those things at 22 I would have a very different perspective on life. But I don’t want footballers at our club who are so readily willing to give up success. Hogan clearly is not motivated by premierships. So Freo are a perfect fit.

NO MORE GEELONG GAMES IN GEELONG. Why are we the only Victorian team that is made to play there? Joke! West Coast in Melbourne for a change would be nice. Essendon home game at the G for once.

Love him. Can’t wait to have him in the side next year. Could not be more optimistic for 2019.

Need a vomit button. Freo will still struggle to kick goals. Gained a forward. Lost a mid.

I reckon we might pick up a few delisted players with late picks.

No issue with people being disappointed. We invested a lot in him. Sadly the same can’t be said for Hogan, who was always one foot out the door. You don’t win flags with players who aren’t committed to your cause.

The footy department clearly does. We are not winning flags with Frost.

And if they do? We needed defenders. I want to win a flag next year not in 5 years when a 2019 draftee peaks. This is a very good deal for us. As always you win some you lose some.

I wanted more, but such is life. At the end of the day Hogan had no real desire to play for this club. He had no real desire for success. His sole motivation was being close to his family and friends. There is nothing wrong with that, but I only want players who want to succeed and want to play for our jumper. Hogan did not. Lets get the May thing done and lets move on. At least we never have to have this "will he won't he" distraction again.

Players will get traded. Demonlanders will [censored] and moan. #jadednewsbreaker

Only because he got injured. Same people were saying he was a bargain when he was dominating before his knee.

Da [censored]? How do Hawthorn continue to rob other clubs like this? I’m just shocked. I think he’s a shitty snake who can’t kick, but a future 4th rounder?! No words.

The big problem here is that we are all dependant on mother [censored] Freo, the most useless football club in Australia. We've been waiting for a week for them to get things sorted, and here we are, a day out, and they haven't even traded Neale who wants to leave them, for which they already have a good deal on the table from Brisbane.

If Rance and McGovern both played for GC, those players are still kicking bags. Gold Coast are a terrible terrible team. The ball spends more time in their backline than anywhere else on the field. On a side note, if we trade Hogan for just pick 5, it tells me there is something NQR with him and we want him gone.

This is a joke. Surely.

Yep. Buddy is in a different atmosphere to Hogan and even that is a dumb and risky deal. Sydney wouldn’t have done it now had they known that COLA was gonna be taken off them

Hogan’s manager is deluded. Nobody is worth 8 years. Nobody! That is an insane risk to take in such a combative sport, especially for someone with back and now foot issues. Maybe they were trying to play on Freo’s desperation and see how far they can push their luck. Maybe he doesn’t really wanna go there and is using it as a way to block the deal or raise his price with Melbourne. Either way this whole thing stinks and I would be very annoyed with Hogan if his unrealistic management stand in the way of our list improving AND he refuses to sign a long term deal with us.

Agreed. We will clearly try and package May and KK for pick 5, which we will receive from Freo for Hogan. I'm waiting for the Neale trade to come thru. Once Peter Bell gets off his high chair and gets this done, the rest of the dominoes will fall very quickly.

Freo- the North Melbourne of the West

We should trade Angus now. 3 first round picks thanks.

I understand what you are saying, but it's too much of a simplistic view. May is the best available defender on the market (given McGovern went to Carlton). A strong bodied mature defender is the biggest missing piece in our structure. It could very well be the difference between a premiership or just making up the numbers. I bet West Coast fans didn't go into the grand final thinking Barrass will win them a flag. May doesn't need to be the best defender in the league, have Lever for that, he needs to be strong, reliable, able to contend with bodies that Oscar simply can't, and free Lever to play an intercept role, one so vitally played by the likes of McGovern and Rance. I don't want another kid on the list, I want to complete our team and win a flag. Hogan is surplus to our needs, we can win flags without him. We can't win flags without another good defender. May covers those needs, and if we win a flag with him in the side, I bet nobody here will give two craps about the picks we traded for him. Just like everyone quickly forgot the Lever trade when he was dominating prior to injury.

We would be so stupid to trade Weideman unless Hogan signs on for 5 years. Weideman is the future. Hogan is likely one foot out the door already.

West Coast? I hope you are correct. But we still have a surplus of key forwards and a lack of key back man. Sadly Hogan won’t be the one who will resolve this situation for us.

We’ve gotten around him and made him feel at home since the day he arrived. Thru the death of his dad, thru his cancer battle. We are not the issue. He clearly wants to go home. Next year he’s out of contract. Maybe WCE join the race and up his price. He will leave one way or another. Unless something drastically changes in his attitude or his personal life.

Short term solution. Hogan won’t be at Melbourne beyond 2019