Moonshadow

Hogan who??? ?

Not if he retires before SC census date this year. Example: Cyril at Hawks. Can free up cap space. Lewis as an assistant coach in 2019 puts his wage under the FD, I believe. Don't quote me on that though.

Your daughters are waxed????

Glad it's not being played in Melbourne's miserable weather today. 11deg windy and rain. Sam would struggle to get near the ball. If our midfield can lower their eyes entering 50, he's a good chance to snaffle a few. The kid has good hands, but as we've found all season, the long bombs have not worked. Keep doing that and Hurn and Gov will slaughter us. Create space, look for a lead, deliver low, get the small forwards involved and we are a chance.

From AFL website: "It's not something I think we should be talking about. It's a private matter," Eagles coach Adam Simpson said. "Obviously his dad is seriously ill. As we have been for the whole journey, our full support is behind Andrew and his family. "He's in Melbourne at the moment, he'll stay there to be with his family. "I think we'd appreciate some privacy on this one, if that's possible."

As others have said, it's not getting the ball into our forward 50 that's the problem, it's our delivery inside 50 and conversion that lets us down every week. John Coleman himself would be frustrated playing out of our goals. If Weid can get his leading patterns working and clunk 3 or 4 or 5 marks i50 we will get on a roll. Desperately need to get off to a big start. C'mon Sammy!

Or going back to weed ?

If selected, this is the perfect opportunity for the Weid to make his mark. Two pedestrian games in R22 &23 will hurt his case. Heard Max say on the radio this morning that he thought Weid would get a call up. Time for him to step up.

Our tails?

Two main Melbourne papers reporting it is something, Wise. Of course Worsfold will play a straight bat, did you expect him to say they've reached agreement already? May amount to nothing. As I said, strange things happen in trade week. From The Age: "The Bombers are understood to have Greater Western Sydney midfielder Dylan Shiel on their radar with the coach trotting out a familiar line when asked about reports they were interested in the 25-year-old Giant." If we supposedly have $ in our cap for 2 stars, why not Shiel? Or are we just happy to let Essendon stroll past and snaffle him with ease? (yes, I know, that's probably hyperbole)

Bingo! Reports have Essendon in negotiations with Shiel. He's exactly what we need. Hogan to Freo, Freo first two picks (6 & 24) to GWS, Shiel to Dees. I do not want Hogan to leave, but sometimes strange things happen in trade week

Impeccable as always

We are interested in Sam Collins and Marty Hore from VFL apparently. Hoped to get Collins as DFA, but must go in the draft now. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/free-agent-target-collins-sent-to-the-draft-20180813-p4zx9t.html

Third rounder. Approx pick 43, of little use in a trade

Ah yes, the blazers. Didn't someone find one in an op shop down Frankston way a while back?

Just interviewed on Talking Footy. Very nervous, not a great speaker. Was asked about staying long term at the Dees. Gave the well rehearsed, straight bat response. He's Gawn!

I opened thinking this thread was about old dee's birthday

Go to your account (top right three horizontal bars) then ignored users, then type in "sir why you little", and select "yes". ? ?

God I love the ignore function

With his contract expiring in 14 months I'd say common sense would be to consider options rather than shouting outrage. If he re-signs, good. If not, what are some of the possible outcomes (apart from many on this thread crying in a foetal position)

Geez you're stubborn Wise! I said earlier, the line for untradable (whatever that means) should be Oliver and Gawn. And Hogan hasn't kicked 50 in a game (!) Or even 50 in a season yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, particularly with foot scans in play. I thought BAs suggestions plausible. To some extent, contracts mean zilch. GWS may want to retain The Rabbit or Whitfield, but if... if they want out a trade is likely. 'If' being the critical word. Apparently Gov jnr at Adelaide will be doing just that in October. Strange things happen at trade time. Hogan's current contract finishes in 14 months. We might be forced to trade him out. What is he realistically worth on the open market and what trade scenarios could be worked? Or shall we just keep our heads in the sand...

Unlikely as they've just signed Gov for 5 years at $385mill per season and the compo pick they'd get for Gaff would likely be around mid 1st round

Good suggestions BA

Wise, every club has very good players in contract that could still be traded. 'Actually available' is is a bit of a furphy. Technically, Hogan is contracted and not 'actually available', but here we are, discussing it! And it's worth noting that Hogan is not ready made, he still has major deficiencies that are currently preventing him from reaching near his peak. But the potential is certainly there. As I've said, I'd like to retain him and work on things he can improve, but in a year's time if his contract expires without re-signing, that may be moot. Look, just because Hogan is a young, key forward kicking 47 goals doesn't mean we can't have a reasonable conversation about his worth to the team and his value on the open market, especially given the yearly rumours. It's tiresome reading some posters outrage, belittling and name calling when these types of discussions arise. And yes, I know I'm no angel. ?

And if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. Playing injured us no excuse once the white line is crossed. If injured, rest him and play someone else. Clearly I'm not as wedded to keeping Hogan as some on here. I'd prefer to retain him, but if the price is right and he is having 2nd thoughts, let's do it. For this season, I'm more worried about the long bombs i50 and our inability to convert set shots.