demon3165

Nope not all, kick outs are the same as the last 2 years out to the left out to the left, so that has not changed so if you think that there is a shift in the game plan how come we got ripped a new butt by the lions and the Bombers, again I don't go with all these stats they are a crock of, well I won't say what I think. The reason we are kicking better at goals is one thing and one thing only and that is they are running in and kicking straight over the mark it's that simple and that is something that Choco has done this year, gone back to how the greats forwards kicked. So no nothing much has changed, I bet you were one that thought that we would go back to back flags, well I said after round 9 or 10 that if we played the same way as 21 we would not win it so I will stick to my thoughts how they play, but I am hoping they change the forward setup to get it more open so players like BB and co get more space to run into.

Bit hard to find space on the lead when you play one side of the ground all the time, players not looking to change angles, when in possession on the H/F line they never look inside just down one side.

Good points and reasoning, but my concern is still the game plan entries into the forward line, JVR is a kid and competes well but is not strong enough to compete in a pack situation yet. On your statement on the forward options we saw that last year and yet we are doing the same thing as last year, should have gotten a forward line coach instead of a ruckman to do that who could teach JVR and others how to use the body and leading patterns etc. As for the pies and cats if we keep doing that I agree we will get smoked because like the bombers and lions showed us what can happen when you play one side of the ground most of you players are there in the contest so they leave players out wide, so when they have control of the ball it goes straight to them and that creates loose men and easier entries into there forward line and we end up chasing tail all day.

Well, ask Yze he's the midfield coach, don't know what happened to the idea that if you are getting beaten you stop the bleeding then transition back to your plan seems you wait till half time to say something, cannot figure that one out.

My my, been on the booze and missed out with a girl or guy tonight, you seem a little angry, settle down junior this is called a forum where one can express an opinion or do you want everyone just to agree with you, night night.

Agree he did well.

Always good to watch it if you have not seen it just turn the sound down though.

JVR should be right to go nothing in it, if he is sighted playes should come out in ballerina dresses to play.

I also remember when the Dogs won their premiership that they would win a couple more that was then this is now.

See mate I look at the whole picture not the corner, we got dismantled by the bombers and Brisbane, and why did that happen? So give me an answer, on how has he modified the gameplan, I'm interested.

Pity it's not me then, but good try.

Fritta yes, ok do you count him as medium, but doesn't play as a taller player.

Very close but flower was just majestic always had that split second extra that I wish Oliver could have.

One did take more maks than brown.

No, but he will not be a major goal kicker with our style, now which style do you think he would like to play, pack marking or leading?

Yet 2 smaller players kicked more goals than him.

The most overrated word in football is disposals yeah he got 28 disposals, half went to the opposition or nowhere if anything it should be effective disposals, Oliver is a great player but has a habit of playing on and rushing it on the boot without looking, as I have said before he needs to slow down a fraction before disposing of it, just like Cripps or the Bont.

Only kicked 25 goals in 21, 30 in 22 when he was at north he 2016 he kicked 41, 2017 63, 2018 61, 2019 64...

As for no commentary, you should have considered yourself lucky.

I agree with you on BB but when he was at north he got a majority of his goals on the lead, he is not a pack mark sort of player if they change how they deliver it he will be effective.

One they played without a Rickman and the other coming of the Anzac game which was played pretty hard, just watch how they move the ball around which like the bombers and lions game completely tore us apart.

Another stats person, so you believe we could beat the cats or pies with our forward line dream on

What game were you watching it was as poor a game from a side competing for the flag.

And what is BBB going to do, had trouble last year, our forward line is dysfunctional, they expect a kid to be a big time pack mark, ain't gonna happen yet, as I said earlier maybe we are like the dogs snaged a great premiership and will continue to make finals and that's it, (hope not).

And that's the game plan everyone just runs there, if you watch the second quarter about 4 minutes left I think it was, Langdon was all by himself in the middle and was running into the forward line alone and not even calling for the pill and I forget who had the pill did not even look inboard they are just so programed to down the line it is yesterday's play book maybe we were like the dogs in 2021 right place right time.