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You mean committed as in - " I love coming to work everyday and playing for the football club - I want to be a one club player and envisage that will be the case" We should have sought answers like that ? Ummm

I have no problem with your views on Scully going or as his ability as a footballer (thus far - I have stated many times - I dont judge 20 year old footballers) but to take a shot at our recruiting of Scully is just tripe. Retrospectiveness at its very worst. There is not a recruiter on record that did not say Scully would not go number one and would not have taken him for their club. You could even argue that MFC did its due diligence on Wtts/Nic Nat - equal choices at number one but we went with the local boy to take the go home factor out of the equation. I think you are allowing your bitterness to cloud your thinking.

nope - not a damn thing

Yup - just depends if Mick worries about Eddies saber rattling which i would think not

I think Mick holds the aces because no one wants a really unhappy camper - but Eddie may say - you have a contract - sit out for a year and all is good - go and coach somewhere else then we get ugly. I just think that Eddie would not see a year sit out as a big slap like jumping and coaching straight away Thats my gut feel.

freakin amazing !

If Mick is unhappy with the situation he will go with Eddies semi blessing - for club stability you couldn't have Buckley and MM locking horns - destabilising. I think the compromise Eddie might ask is for him to step away from coaching for year. I dont think he will be at Pies either. Buckleys very domineering personality would not allow for a MM looking over his shoulder.

Makes guest appearances on South Park under the psuedonym "Mr Hanky"

Okay - call me Mr Rose Coloured Glasses. I look at StKilda's list and see the potential ( I know , I know - an ugly word) in our list and wonder to myself what would a Ross Lyon do with this list. His has honed some fairly ordinary footballers (Dawson, Blake, Dempster, Peake etc) into playing to team rules, team structures and with committment. He speaks plainly - doesnt gloat when he gets it right (63% of the time) and doesnt back away ( Luke Ball) when he gets it wrong. Talk to 99% of the Saints supporters about having to watch Saints footy - they are delighted - as would I be if he came to the Dees

I am going - ( you hear that pitchfork ? I will ring pitchfork senior to arrange )

Its all good... I will pull you on information double up though - this thread has been doing the same laps for almost 3 months.

Ummm - if you follow everyone of RPFC's posts on the matter you will find the only quotes RPFC is relying on is from Scully himself and chosing to believe what he has said.

I see a certain irony that we are all passionate and vocal ( and sometimes even reasoned and logically) about who should and shouldnt coach our team but criticise who is on the committee to make the recommendation. The only person missing from the committee is a panel of Demonland posters.

If only that was the case ! With the interpretation of holding the ball law - it has bred a generation of lurkers - how may times do we now see players refusing to pick up the ball for fear of getting pinged. Getting second to the ball is not a bad thing now as the guy making the play is no longer at an advantage. I cant remember ever seeing umpires costing us a game so I dont whinge about "What they did to us" However - over the past two seasons the standard of umpiring and interpretation of rules is taking the fun out of the game for me. The amount of "guessing" they are doing is mind boggling - if you are not sure dont blow your whistle. If you pull the ball in it gives the opposition carte blanche to dive on your back. The umpires are usually on the blind side of the pack and have no idea if the ball is out or not and more often than not it is the opposition holding the ball under you so it is impossible to get it out. So yes - i will whinge about the umpires - period. They are ruining all football. All you need to do is take of the "bias hat" and watch non MFC games of football to see the depths that umpiring has sunk. What really upsets me is the umpiring during last years finals was fantastic - they only blew the whistle when an obvious free was there. I know it is the best umpires working together but why cant we get that standard the whole year.

fast forward to end 2011 early 2012 - he won't be relieved of the captaincy - he will relinquish it (behind closed doors pressure duly exerted) "I have found my form has suffered with the extra burden of the captaincy and with this bright brigade of well credentialled youngsters that ooze leadership, I have decided that is in the best interests of the club and getting myself back to my best form that I relinquish the captaincy and pass it onto .......(insert your favoured choice here). I am fully committed to this club and see our future blah blah ....."

That's fair and reasonable (except for the short part - I dont see his height as a hinderance at all).

I have a different view - it is not that he will or wont be great. It is my steadfast refusal to make pronouncements on 20 year olds as these assessments more than often come back and bite you on the bum. Goddard certainly did and in the reverse, we were singing the praises of Morton in his first year and his development has stalled. The twin pillars of our resurrection - Miller at CHF and Rivers at CHB - how did that turn out ? Whilst you were seeing something in Watts many were writing him off. Call me a coward but crystal balling on sub 23 year olds is exactly that - crystal balling ( and no one truly believes in fortune tellers and crystal balls)

Look at the difference the extra kilo's on Marc Murphy that have turned into muscle have done for his game. I read he has only put on 4 kilo in the last two years - but what a difference it makes.

and is your sister

A little research would make you reconsider this post.

As in the Jack Watts thread, it never ceases to amaze me that people are so willing to mark the ticket of 20 year old footballers so early. 2nd season footballer with no preseason and carrying a knee - and you are ready to declare him a middle of the road footballer ?

I have always been a Bennell fan but my major cross against him was not getting enough of the ball. Couldnt make it to the game yesterday and I see he had 8 possessions for the game ( and 6 tackles). Stats nowdays means zip but there seems to be a lot of love for an 8 possession game.

I know of a lot of business who act on instinct, experience and gut feel to make large decisions (without outside input) and I dont have a problem with that. But to suggest spending copious amounts of money on research/consultants to justify your position - bad business 101 UNLESS it is necessary to get consultants/research to give opinion etc which you already know the outcome to give a better understanding to people who dont have a thorough understanding. Consultants are frequently used in private equity world for the express purpose

Never read such a load of hooey in all my life. Recipe for failure - if a business needs research and consultants to justify predetermined decisions then there is fundamental flaws in the business and its management. ( and a huge waste of money) Management may have a "gut feel" or "instinct" but you would hope that a business would go to the expense of procuring what you call "official research" or "expert consultants" to get an unbiased and untainted view. Management should have no preconceptions that view will either solidify what you instinctively know or give you information and "expert" thoughts that may show that your instincts are just plain wrong. (Don't send me your resume ! )

I hope he would be a great asset to the club but I am becoming a sceptic regarding "rubbing off". We have one of the hardest players ever to pull on boots as our midfield coach ( West) and our head coach never took a backwards step. Even our head coach had little skill at his time at Essendon but was hard as nails at the ball. The question is whether or not there is "rubbing off". ( on the flip side is Paul Roos who I loved as a footballer but had his team playing the exact opposite of he used to play as footballer). The key is whether these coaches can motivate the players to play as they did.