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Collingwood played in the 2002 and 2003 GF only to tank and lose their last 11 games to scoop up Thomas and Pendlbury at pick 2 and 5 in the 2005 draft. Hawthorn tanked in 2004 to get both Roughead and Franklin at pick 2&5. Richmond also tanked in 2004 with Wallace admitting as much to pick up Deledio at 1 and Tambling at 4 Carlton tanked to win both the "Krueser and Gibbs cups" with assistant coach Libratore again admitting as much but warned to keep his mouth shut by the AFL. Eagles tanked in 2008 to get Nic Nat at pick 2 after playing in both the 2005 & '06 Grand Finals. And we were absolutely garbage for multiple years and yet were the only club that got stung for tanking. What a hatchet job.

There'd be some shonky sheet going down for sure.

Thanks for the post Drunkn. All the best to Dec in the future. Any parting insider dirt? Like WTF is really going on down there? Do they think the game plan is crap, is there a player split etc... etc?

Wouldn't trust Sheedy. He'd play to his favourites and holds his grudges. There's a reason he went after Scully so hard. It was payback for overlooking him for the coaching position. And he was prepared to pay a kings ransom to get it.

Who did his best under trying circumstances.

And I was just as disgusted then. Even in the good years we'd get on a roll, win 4-5 games and look unstoppable. Then lose the next 4-5 and look like spuds. Often we'd solidify a spot in the finals 3-4 games out, then get lazy and lose the rest going in with no momentum. One year being on top rd18 and losing to bottom placed Carlton for the 2nd time that year. Unacceptable then, unacceptable now.

We've got or held records for worst of just about everything. High achievers at low achieving.

Another failure to make finals punctuated with a trademark choke in rd23.

17. MELBOURNE (5-17, 78.6%) Three word analysis Unacceptably, unbelievably abhorrent What went right Very little. Max Gawn had a good year, while Christian Petracca can hold his head up high. If there is a bounce-back in 2020, this season will be reflected upon as a great learning experience. If not, it will be the beginning of the end for the senior coach. The narrative over the summer will predictably revolve around learning from mistakes, the need to take one step back to move two steps forward and all of that jazz. But none of this cuts the mustard. Words are cheap. No club will be more harshly judged in 2020 than the Dees. And trying to decipher what went right in 2019 is like finding a needle in a haystack. What went wrong Pretty much everything went wrong — and that’s putting it politely. In chronological order, Melbourne had 15 off-season surgeries – one-third of the list – which put the club on the back foot from the outset. Then star recruit Steve May turned up to pre-season running unfit. Then they neglected team defence for offence and ball movement across the summer. Then Port Adelaide and Geelong embarrassed the Demons in the first two rounds. Then May was caught drinking while injured. Then former player Shaun Smith publicly critiqued the club’s handling of his son Joel’s injury. Then Gary Pert and Josh Mahoney flipped the football department on its head when it became apparent the structure underneath Simon Goodwin wasn’t working. It made no difference in the wins and losses column, but at least it was proactive. Then Tom McDonald, Mitch Hannan, Jeff Garlett, Kade Kolodjashnij and several other suffered season-ending injuries. May was also one of these players, limping off the field with a recurrence of a hamstring strain in Round 21. Players who were influential in 2019 such as Clayton Oliver, Angus Brayshaw, Jack Viney and Jayden Hunt struggled for consistency, while veterans Nathan Jones and Jordan Lewis appeared to show their respective ages. And then, precisely when a winnable game presented itself against 15th placed Sydney at the MCG, just 23,000 fans turned up on a Friday night. Those who missed it wouldn’t have regretted it as the Demons booted just five goals in a Round 22 encounter that epitomised the club’s sorry plight. If you’re not out of breath yet, here’s more: Simon Goodwin’s public messaging became tired as he desperately searched for answers, former coach Paul Roos declared the team he helped build had no identity, and captain Jones’ contract stand-off frustrated player, club, management and fans, all for different reasons. From third in 2019 after finals to second last in 2020, Melbourne endured a horrid season. Even the club’s most cynical fans would not have foreseen this campaign in their nightmares. If not for last-ditch wins over the Blues and Suns, it could have been even worse. When players returned for training in late 2018 Melbourne decided not to review its preliminary final loss to West Coast. It was a conscious call from the coaches, who believed the performance was so rare - and such an anomaly - that they’d be best to forget it and move on. But when players report for duty in late 2019, an extensive and brutal review of this five-win season is absolutely necessary. What they need A fit list, a fresh approach from new assistants (including Alan Richardson) and highly rated fitness chief Darren Burgess, and a plan to bring the administration and football wings of the club under the one roof. From a recruiting perspective, the Demons should poach any outside runners that are available. Fremantle’s Ed Langdon could help, while Brad Hill is more likely to end up at St Kilda but would be an ideal fit in the red and blue. For most of the season Melbourne’s players were like bees to a honey pot. As soon as the Sherrin was released free, they appeared slow, cumbersome and frankly second rate. A couple of wingers who have pace would assist in fixing this problem. Another forward to partner Tom McDonald and Sam Weideman in the Josh Jenkins mould would be a smart acquisition. But Jenkins’ asking price might be too hefty, in which case they will need to look elsewhere. Above all else, they need to get some confidence and belief back. And the only way to create this dynamic in an organic rather than manufactured way is to win games of footy. What time is it on the premiership clock 9 o’clock — It may sound crazy after this season, but there’s still time to get it right. The talent that propelled them to a preliminary final last year can’t be all gone. Season grade F

And keep an eye out for all the dinky little 20m passes into the corridor that get turned over.

You don't keep blokes on for what they have produced in the past. You keep them on for what they can produce in the future. He's already had 2yrs grace. Geelong had to tell Bartell he was finished. 2 flags, a Brownlow and Norm Smith medallist. These blokes get addicted to the coin.

Winning the big one is all I'm interested in.

I remember the Daniher years We could make the finals. But we'd only be making up the numbers. Not enough class and too mentally weak to get the job done. And the job is winning flags, not just making finals.

I'd like to know exactly what they take full responsibility for. Is it bludging through the pre-season , the season, not evolving the game plan, not trying to improve their skills, getting ahead of themselves ...... What? Such a hollow statement continually trotted out from the "leader". I'm sure we'll soon be told the players will work to redeem themselves next year. Again. We've already been told it will burn in their guts. What a joke.

I hope he goes to Gold Coast. He's done.

That's Goodwins coaching. Numbers at the contest is the mantra.

Blah , blah forken blah. Seriously, how often do we gotta hear the same sheet. Game after game, year after year. This Club learns nothing. https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-08-24/we-take-full-responsibility-jones?fbclid=IwAR3jNRWqpPqUp1B9TlcTSYF5UDOV7JnAMyY0NIXJFx93sIbD9wEnmHKaY5I

Surely you're kidding. After finally playing finals and getting to a prelim last year you think 17th this year is a satisfactory outcome?

Way ahead of you man. At the start of the season I saw us running the same garbage game plan with what looked like no effort to fix our F50 entries, dysfunctional backline or poor skills over the pre-season and so didn't bother renewing my gold membership or make the 700k round trip to watch 1 game. Seen it all before from this club and have been absolutely disgusted it's happened again. Will withhold my money next season and watch for improvement before forking any of it over.

And this is why Jones must go. How long has he been the leader of this rabble? Too forken long.

Roughie and Hodge are probably both already out've our price range. We go for the no name assistants.

Players mum whines her darling boy isn't getting a game ..... Spare me.

No they weren't. They were a young side on the up. Thomas was sacked by an alcoholic President with a vendetta who was also coked up to the eyelids. If they didn't get the injuries they would have rolled us in the final for sure. Gehrig going down was massive, Hamill on 1 leg too. Sacking[edit] After many injuries during the 2006 season, St Kilda finished sixth after the home and away season but were beaten in the elimination final by Melbourne. Injuries to Fraser Gehrig, Robert Harvey, Justin Koschitzke, Raphael Clarke and Xavier Clarke during the game, as well as the underdone Aaron Hamill and Max Hudghton, led to the Saints exiting the finals after leading for most of the match but being unable to run the game out. They finished the season in eighth position, which was not considered good enough by the club's president, Rod Butterss. On 12 September 2006 it was announced that Thomas would no longer coach the club as a 'mutual' agreement. Thomas, however, maintained that the club had asked him to leave by sacking him and while he had accepted, it was not completely mutual. [2] The decision was a shock to the football world considering that Thomas was only the second coach to lead the Saints to three consecutive finals series. It is not known why he was sacked, but many factors include the controversial match against Fremantle in Round 5, 2006 in which the Saints were stripped of two points following a hearing the following Wednesday, which ultimately cost them a top-four spot and the double chance, the long-term injuries to Justin Koschitzke, Aaron Hamill and Fergus Watts and starting the season with two interstate trips in four weeks. Thomas has shown no interest in ever coaching another AFL club.

Yes ... Mental weakness.