binman

Otherwise known in the math world as the Viney percentage

It's closer to 96%

Is that right? Better let Goody know.

Totally agree. The key will be not telling the fans, boards, media (except some anointed inside the tent types), the AFL (expect the Chairman of the AFL Commission, who will need to sign it all off) and his assistant coaches at North, Essendon and GWS. It will of course come out in time, but then he just needs to apologize to all those people - except the fans of course.

And goody too obviously. God knows why we bother with a coach

A Public Service Announcement Before reading this post, please consider the following information: This post may be triggering for some readers There are high levels of confirmation bias detected Post from binman: I found this comment from Goody's presser yesterday very interesting: "They feel physically fresh, they feel ready to go, we feel like we have been able to build some cohesion in the way we play in the last four or five weeks."

All season on DL there are calls for this player or that player to be dropped. In the last few weeks there has been a crescendo of such talk, with posters variously calling for Nibbler, Spargo, Swallow, JJ, Harmes and Melksham (though not now!) to be dropped. Which is all fine - as many have noted it is a footy forum for opinions after all. But i reckon this quote from Goody's presser yesterday (which i cant find a video of) gives a great insight into one of goody's key coaching philosophies: "One thing we do know with our team is that building cohesion in how you're playing and cohesion with the playing group that you have in the back four or five rounds of the season is really important. We have been able to do that. We have been able to keep our list really healthy the last four or five weeks and make sure they operate well together and that is the most important thing." I also found this comment interesting (confirmation bias alert - mine that is): "They feel physically fresh, they feel ready to go, we feel like we have been able to build some cohesion in the way we play in the last four or five weeks."

He was starting to show his frustration against the blues - and with good reason.

My theory? Day games are often much more hot and humid than opponent are used to - the lions train in such conditions so that probably gives them some advantage. And night games are often slippery with the dew and humidity, and again opponent are not used to those sort of conditions.

Oath. Add BB to the list too

I really hope it's true. When I was 11 I went to the footy every week with a mate. He was a roos supporter so we alternated dees and roos games. Generally the roos games were at Arden Street. So I have always had a soft spot for them, helped in the decades since then by the fact they have been residents of struggle town like the dees. I remember how pumped I was when I heard roos was coming to the dees. Hope is a powerful drug. I'm hoping roos fans get the chance to sample the hope drug. Speaking of hope, If it comes to pass that Clarkson doesn't go to the bombers I hope it is not forgotten the role Mark Robinson and the Herald Sun, and 3AW for that matter, have played in the appalling way Rutten has been treated. Their unseemly lust to break the story meant they got it wrong in claiming Rutten had been sacked. And then when that was proved wrong, there was no contrition or retraction. Just more churning the waters and ginning up a soap opera. Just appalling. They won't face any consequences because these days it seemingly doesn't matter at all when journalists make [censored] up or plain get it wrong. It used to. It doesn't any more. Robinson will just blame his source. I hope the other coaches refuse to deal with him and the sun.

In addition, we have had a much harder draw this season. And no tmac for a big block of matches.

That's better! Did trac sound confident in his posting?

It seems like there are far fewer whispers about selection this season. This is completely made up, so please ignore. I have heard Weed is chance of being selected this week.

The glorifying of violence is such an incredibly pervasive element of how the game is covered. It infuriates me. There are a million examples, but a a recent one that really grated was the giddy, thug love in with Darcy, thug Matthews and Luke 'nothing to see here' Hodge when Cripps ironed out Ah Chee (who by the by cant play tomorrow night, but not because of the 12 day protocol, but because he STILL suffering from concussion symptoms. Same is apparently true for Marcus Adams).

Sin bin for you.

Well, they weren't long 17 themselves in 1964

If your mate has a valid GA barcode fron his membesship and he isn't going to use it then you can. He might have to 'get" his ticket by downloading it now in case GA sells out, but I assume all members GA tix have to be honoured. Although only into any GA area.

It will as long as it has not been used

Therapist: 'partner b, is it possible that rather than critically analysing things, the opposite is true and you are acting from emotion. Which might be resulting identifying symptoms of the problems, but not understanding the underlying cause an therefore finding it difficult to find effective solutions? Partner b: acting from emotion? Symptoms? Bugger off - we're out of here you peanut.

Yep. By way of contrast, Port made the prelim last year and will not be in the finals. The dogs made a GF, and, with one round to go, are not a lock for the finals.

Oh yes, so it is. My joke was a total bust from start to finish! Chicks for free? The 80s were certainly another time. Can't imagine a major record label would be putting out police's Don't stand so close to me in 2022.

My apologies norm - i completely stuffed that up. We have the question written in a shared show DM and instead of actually listening to the question i was reading them. Well to be accurate, reading the wrong one! The answer are similar in that both strategies (kick to the pocket coming inside 50 and kick out to the same spot each time) are all about probability and percentages. In very simple terms, kicking to the pocket, whilst boring and predictable, over the journey will result in scoring more often and conceding less goals from transition. Risk versus reward I posted on this very topic (ie why i think we kick to the pocket) in another thread some time back and will find it later and paste in here. It is worth noting there was a very similar discussion on DL heading into the finals last season. Come the prelim and GF we def went a bit more central with our inside 50 kicks and so moved the risk reward dial towards risk a bit more. That is one of the advantages of predictability. When coming up against us, opposition teams make tweaks to their structures, systems and tactics to counter what we do. If we do the same things all the time they respond accordingly, meaning if we suddenly become unpredictable we can catch them out. As an example, in the GF we got a jump on the dogs, party because we did something a bit different with our inside 50 entries. The dogs suddenly had to organize their defensive structure a bit differently to counter that change. A more recent, and even better, example is how we set up and implemented the set play that resulted in Kozzie's match winning goal. The blues fully expected that we would go down the line with any attacking foray in those last 2 minutes, and set up accordingly. They also put offensive players in down the line spots on their side of centre. We obviously knew they would do so and designed a set up that looked to create an outnumber in the corridor. And so, when Lever didn't even hesitate to go around his body and kicked laterally inboard to the corridor, no doubt much to Voss's shock, we incredibly had a 3 to 1 out number (by the by that kick also highlights the risks involved in being more aggressive in terms of ball movement - we turn that ball over then and the game is over as if we have a 3 to one outnumber in the corridor they had two free players somewhere - one of which being may's opponent McKay). There was another element in that play where we used our predictability to our advantage. By being unpredictable. Normally Hunt would kick that ball into one of the pockets as per our normal, predictable method. Instead he kicked to a spot 20 metres out directly in front of goal, where it was all one on ones - something Voss would be furious about - as their extras were probably protecting the space near the boundary on the members side (players who would have been stationed there expecting Lever was going to kick it towards them). I heard Bartel say he has no doubt that kick by hunt and the preceding one by Lever was a set play drawn up during the week by the coaching staff, noting that it was too far out for the blues to hit through for a point. Those sort of tweaks and taking advantage of suddenly being unpredictable are best left for the finals where they can have maximum impact, not least because opposition coaches suddenly have tactically respond on the fly. The same is true for tactics we might employ to negate, and/or respond to, strategies teams have tried against us during the home and way season. That's to say there is an advantage when goody doesn't respond during the home and away season in that he gets a look at what the other coach might try and in a big final with out showing his hand. An example is the way Geelong looked to take advantage of our kick in to Maxy by having big bodied players like Blicavs front and center at those aerial contests. Goody got criticised for not responding, but if we play the cats in the finals we know Scott might employ that same strategy, and have months to plan and train a response, yet he is only guessing what that response might be. For example, we might suddenly occasional start going short to the pocket (we have been experimenting a bit with in some recent games), and then do what the lions look to do - go long from there so the aerial contest is up near the wing, with perhaps BB and Fritter pushing up ie go over the top of Gawn and the Cats players looking to win the grounds ball.

Fitness would a play role - fatigue impacts all elements of any game plan. For example a factor in the difference might be poor conversion. We have many players with poor kicking technique and fatigue exacerbates poor technique. But given that specific comparison is comparing this year to last year, when fatigue would also have been a factor, then there are no doubt many other possible factors and causes. I haven't listened to the segment - did king give any explanation as to what he thinks are causing the numbers, because that is where my mind goes. Otherwise the analysis lacks nuance and the solutions therefore will lack nuance and will be too simplistic For example he might just simply say the dees need to fix their scores from clearances because they are down on last year. Jackson has been taking a much higher percentage of the ruck time in the back half of the season this year, with Maxy pushing forward to mitigate our lack of an effective second tall and perhaps also because he is carrying niggles. It feels like it has almost been 50 50 in the last six or seven matches (the data on this would interesting). Jackson is not in Maxy's league (yet) as a ruck, particularly at around the grounds stoppages where his relative lack of strength is an issue, an issue compounded by any fatigue he might be experiencing (his form dropped right off in the middle of last season and again this year). It seems logical that Maxy attending less stoppages would impact on how often we score from those stoppages as he is a far better ruck than Jackson. Another factor is we have had a much harder draw this season and so have played more games against teams with gun midfields than last season. There are probably any number of other possible factors too - eg opposition tactical strategies have been more effective this season.

Sorry Kev, I was making a silly joke - a play on words from that stupid dire straits song combiing your comment you don't like something for nothing and radomly working in free kicks As in 'money for nothing and your kicks for free' Safe to say, quite a stretch. But I agree with you about free kicks btw.