DEE fence

Tambling 4, Franklin 5.

Pav is the only champion #4 pick.

cheers mate for the update, i couldv'e googled it I guess, I'd happily take a Pav at 4, I read the other day that he was a diminished player somewhere and he came out and played a blinder - in another team he'd be rated like Franklin or Riewoldt

You can stick by it, but go to the AFL site and spend 10 mins completing the ladder predictor.

I think you will be surprised by how many wins a team finishing 16th can have...

I am probably the only tragic who went though the ladder predictor and tweaked it until we were top of the ladder years end and had all interstate sides (and carlton) finishing outside the eight

No one in their right mind would trade pick 1 for pick 4 and 13.

Past pick 4s have included Morton, Fiora, Ray. Past pick 13s have included Matthew Bate, Tom Lynch (x-Stkilda), Mitch Brown (geelong nothing player).

Pick 1 is a lock great player (or should be at least).

Scully will be a star. 100%. We'll have to get really lucky with pick 4 and pick 13. Let's hope we do. but people are kidding themselves if they think we did better off.

There is a reason we declined pick 5 and pick 9 for pick 2 that year.

did Franklin go at 4 or 5, ?!? what about Hird, draft picks still have a huge element of luck to them, you need to be thereabouts but to say with confidence that certain numbers are no good you must have a oujjia board or something

I really would like to belt some of you, 3 busted vertebrae and his heart and effort are denigrated, you imagine trying to come back and play the toughest contact sport short of boxing, knowing that your spine had been broken, and tell me you wouldn't take awhile to get up to speed. The downhill skiers are on this forum, whether Col is long term for us will be found out in the future but he has 2012 as a grace period for my money. This man has had serious injuries playing for the Demons, our club, and deserves a bit more respect, they are not pea heart injuries but things earned going in after the pill. If he was useless the opposition wouldn't play him so tight.

So when you look at sylvia's injuries I wonder why he bothers considering the slagging he gets here

Fletcher is a dog, but a very clever one, I reckon as he starts getting slower, (and it looks like that has started thank christ) he will do one or two dirty things too much and the light will be shone on his antics. As much as I hate him I thought he was brilliant in a dirty way throwing his body into LRT as they ran after the ball, he knew he'd lose the race and found a way to take his man down.

I also thought Essendon had the rub of the green in the umpiring, Swans would for sure have aright to grumble if it had gone badly for them.

hope he plays as a small forward

I reckon our mids will develop and yes we top up with some good picks. The thing with TC is you can't train to be that size and that's why he will get the big bickies (I remember Miller's breakout game and thought 'great as long as we can teach him to kick straight', something sadly that never happened despite the great marking ability) Travis is a better kick than Miller, and Neitz had his off days (always needed the 1st couple to go through) so for me its all about the fact that he is a coordinated mountain, pay him heaps he's worth it.

And in response I agree in a perfect world we'd have a under 18's and a great zone (which we never did, and was one of the causes our slump in the 70's) and we would look like the Geelong Falcons etc, and develop our own talent except this is never going to happen. Cook and Cloke are not mutually exclusive either.

Shame on you, no justification to compare T$ with Beamer, he's had a crap year to date, hardly on his own there but he has been a team player in the best sense of the word and certainly earned our respect. Unless you have some hard facts about him shopping himself around pull your head in, having met the man I choose to believe him.

Am I the only one that misses Neitz, Schwarz, Lyon, (even Earl Spalding) standing in the forward line (yes I know they weren't all together at the same time but frequently pairs of them were), knowing that we had a Gorilla for a contested marking forward was something you could take for granted with the Dee's . Cloke's contested marking ability is gold dust. I am happy to leave it to the coach to make the final call, as I think he has the best perspective on what makes Travis tick and whether he would suit us, but that said, grab him. With Templeton and Moore, they had already had injuries so their cards were marked (Moore did get a Brownlow though so I felt we got value with that recruitment) Geelong has always had a few big units in Mooney and Hawkins and Ottens running around I don't think matching Clark and and Cloke would be a mistake. Cook is a project and I hope he comes good but Cloke now would do all the right things, including making us an instant threat. And you can't tell me that it wouldn't annoy the cr@p out of every pies fan in the world. Jurrah crumbing off these two would also be cool.

BomberBlitz post match discussion thread now up to page 34.......

call me petty but i read every page

Melbourne Storm say hi

damn funny LOL

My "other" for the most disappointing:

the lack of understanding of where we are as a list by many supporters, leading to overexaggerations of our ineptitude and a general tension and despair among the supporter group.

bang on, never have the margins been so small between woeful and promising, but listening to laments on here about professionalism and the attitude of players really gets me.

As any good soldier knows, things change - times are good, things will change, times are bad things will change, all comes down to character lets show some by sticking with the club.

Moloney is reacting to all the crap that has been posted on him here at the forum

I don't give a damn what he gets, 0-10, I just reckon he took a sniper shot, not just a bump which I'm all for, calling it like i see it is all, personally I'm super rapt with Viney, I didn't believe till this week that he'd be much, now I believe and that makes me very happy. And I reckon if there is a round two Wojo will be the loser, I cannot remember a 17yo being so in your face before, especially a ompaloompa like Viney. Apparently he got told to tackle softer in the school comp he plays in, much to like and I'm on the viney bandwagon and happy for a first round Draft Pick.

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/cats%20tv/tabid/7942/contentid/447241/default.aspx

Watched it a few times, for my money Wojo lifted his elbow slightly into Viney's head as he was running past Viney-looks more than reckless - 6 weeks at least

Who cares what he gets at tribunal? Are we that soft a club (supporters) that we throw a hissy fit because our player got a heavy hit? Pretty sure Jack Viney would say thats footy and move on. So should we. We need to toughen up.

Lets hope Jack Viney is doing the same thing to a debutaunt in a few years time!

I was with you until the last garbage sentence, never want to see a MFC taking cheap shots, its a disgrace.

Round 1 and that's it, I know Round 4 is the tribute match but I still had hoped for more today.

A memo to the Melbourne Football Club :

Wear the Reach logo on our jumper with pride.....all year

just do it

nothing more needs to said really

+1 really like this, to the point that I will triple the number of memberships I buy to 11 if the club agrees to keep the reach logo

A superb human passed away-terribly sad for his family that he left so soon. RIP Jim you were everything I love about football.

After last years "Bruise Free" games. Carlton are a beatable team at the'G.

actually I agree, I'd like to think that we now get 5 and not four wins BL, Tigers, Bombers, Pies.

but remain scared of the dogs, hawks and saints.

if we beat WCE I am deleting my vote and backing us for the eight.

as for midfield we are sparse on rolls royces but I think Neeld has a plan for this, its not going to be pretty but at least we'll see more of the players as they trudge it around the boundary line.

They are starting to look like Melbourne from about 1965 until 2010.

you obviously missed a bit of footy in the 80's and 90's, i remain very proud of the sides that got to the GF's and finals series.

i just realized who Grimes reminds me of...please don't howl... Steve Waugh

+ 1 for a locker room, for the mods I agree this a huge amount of work. What I would humbly suggest is that if a match review mentions a particular player that it is linked or indexed to the player profile so that when you click on the player you can see an index of match reviews he's mentioned in. This might be what is planned already but it could quickly become a valuable living history.

Perhaps if the writer of the match review could list the players with some sort of hash tag so that the forum automatically 'sweeps' them into the index, saving some work for the mods.

Also can the like/dislike button be set up so that a quick summary of posters who agree with sentiments can be listed with the initial post saying 'morton rubbish', it would save much scrolling through pages

...bleh... inserted his ego into most stories, saying he's better than MR is not saying much, the floaters in a Werribee pond have that going for them too.