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21 combinations out of how many? (Based on what you've said, we should be happy with the Lever deal, right?).

I'd happily spend all day on this, but I don't have the time. Will you do the leg work for me? A bigger sample would prove my point nicely! In the meantime, here's this - a list of the pick 10 and 12 selections over the same time period. Of course, it's 'skewed' and there are 'outliers'. Pick 12 from 2007: Year Drafting club Name Games (games at later clubs) Goals Brownlow votes 2007 Hawthorn Cyril Rioli 185 273 44 //All-Australian x5 2008 Sydney Lewis Johnston 10 (2) 16 2 - career over after four seasons at two clubs 2009 Carlton Kane Lucas 42 15 1 - career over after seven seasons at two clubs 2010 Melbourne Lucas Cook 0 0 0 - career over after two seasons 2011 Brisbane Sam Docherty 92 (13) 14 6 //All-Australian x1 2012 GWS Kristian Jaksch 14 (7) 3 0 - moved on from second club 2013 Richmond Ben Lennon 21 10 0 - two games in 2017 (not in premiership team) 2014 Richmond Corey Ellis 23 7 1 - six games in 2017 (not in premiership team) 2015 Carlton Charlie Curnow 27 25 0 - 21 games in 2017 2016 North Melbourne Jy Simpkin 13 9 0 - 13 games in 2017 Pick 10 from 2007: Year Drafting club Name Games (games at later clubs) Goals Brownlow votes 2007 Adelaide Patrick Dangerfield 202 (154) 232 165 //All-Australian x5 2008 Adelaide Phil Davis 121 (18) 6 1 2009 Essendon Jake Melksham 133 (114) 78 3 - traded for pick 25 2010 Gold Coast Daniel Gorringe 26 (22) 11 0 - career over after seven seasons at two clubs 2011 GWS Liam Sumner 32 (12) 19 0 - career over after six seasons at two clubs 2012 Essendon Joe Daniher 93 173 19 - father-son pick - Nick Vlastuin was at pick 10; Troy Menzel at pick 11 //All-Australian x1 2013 Collingwood Nathan Freeman 0 0 0 - yet to make debut 2014 Geelong Nakia Cockatoo 32 25 0 - 11 games in 2017 2015 Carlton Harry McKay 2 3 0 - 2 games in 2017 2016 Gold Coast Jack Bowes 11 2 0 - 11 games in 2017 How many pairs of a pick 10 and 12 would you take instead of Lever? It looks like half of them won't even be AFL players when they should be hitting their physical peak. The more I look into it, the more confident I am about my statement that draft picks are overrated.

Since when were picks 10 and 13ish guaranteed good players? Perhaps you missed my post listing our top 20 picks since 2007.

Draft picks are overrated. To put this trade in perspective, here are our top 20 picks since 2007: Scully - pick 1 Watts - pick 1 Petracca - pick 2 Hogan - pick 2 Trengove - pick 2 Brayshaw - pick 3 Oliver - pick 4 Toumpas - pick 4 Morton - pick 4 Weideman - pick 9 Salem - pick 9 Gysberts - pick 11 Cook - pick 12 Grimes - pick 14 Blease - pick 17 Tapscott - pick 18 Strauss - pick 19 Would people be crying that we'd 'paid overs' and were 'amateurs' if we'd packaged up Weid and Grimes*, or Salem and Cook*, to get Lever, pick 35 and upgrade pick 64 to pick 50? *Oh wait, we couldn't offer those trades because these blokes are already out of the system. PS. Honourable mention to Marric at pick 21.

Anyone interested in the upcoming Champions Trophy? AUSTRALIA SQUAD: David Warner, Aaron Finch, Steve Smith (c), Travis Head, Chris Lynn, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis, Moises Henriques, Matthew Wade, John Hastings, Pat Cummins, Josh Hazlewood, James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc, Adam Zampa. A potentially lethal pace battery, but I don't know that they'll all play together in the Champions Trophy. Faulkner, Bailey and Khawaja are notable outs. I was surprised to see Hastings back and Henriques make the cut. Full squads here (India TBA Monday): http://www.cricket.com.au/news/champions-trophy-full-squads-2017-fixtures-australia-england-india-pakistan/2017-04-26 I'm a bit late to the party, but I agree with this.

I think that's crazy talk - there'd be 15+ guys I'd reel off before Strech even entered the conversation. He's showed some good signs though and I'm interested to see where he's at in two years time. I think the competition for spots in our best team will be fierce.

I liked the format, and was glad to hear that it will be retained for the next T20. In other news, the top associate team will get a chance to play four first-class matches - two at home and two away - versus the bottom Test team, beginning 2018.

Nice to see Sanga and Jayawardene get a fairytale finish to their T20 career with a win in the final. Great work by the Aussie women too.

I just read the article and watched the interview excerpts at the link Macca provided: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/players-will-look-at-jonathan-trott-and-think-he-did-a-runner-20140317-hvjis.html?skin=text-only To me it certainly sounds like more than being out of form - the way he was trying to avoid his teammates, the severe anxiety about even going to the ground and the comment that the GP would, in normal circumstances, have signed him off for three weeks leave from his job all point to more than being out of form.

I've never even heard of this guy! What a truly astounding match he played.

His Test record is similarly up and down, although not to such an extreme. From memory I think his WA teammate Marcus North was a bit the same.

Even if Harris never plays another Test, I think he'll be able to look back pretty satisfied with his work in the international arena.

Nice work, 45, appreciate it. I like Misbah. Even though there's still some speculation re: Pakisan captaincy, I reckon that it's been about as stable as you'll get for a Pakisani cricket captain over quite a long time now. (He'll probably get the sack tomorrow).

So we decide not to enforce the follow-on and Rogers and Warner ran out to bad. After six overs Warner's on 25 from 17, playing as you'd expect in this situation. Meanwhile, Rogers goes to bed on 1 from 19...David makes it look easy sometimes, but it's not. Effectively 0/234 with two days left, how long do we bat for?

That's probably helpful to us, given we're 7/494 after two days on this pitch.

IMO Clarke should bat where he gets the most runs for us. If he gets more runs batting at #5 than #3 then that's fine with me.

The domestic 50/50 crowds were never anywhere near the BBL crowds.

The crowd and television ratings for domestic 50-over cricket versus Big Bash League cricket aren't just in a different league, they're in a different stratosphere.

Nothing to do with that, but moreso that TV and crowd numbers are going to be better over the current period, where you've got the Xmas/NY break, school holidays, better weather, etc.

His FC form hasn't been good.

Thanks. 56 needed off 13.5 overs with De Villiers just falling. Faf's on 123 and Duminy is striding to the crease.

Haha, love it.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/bit-of-mongrel-and-we-have-a-new-captain-grumpy-20131125-2y67p.html Pretty interesting.

More relevant to compare recent form, really. Unfortunately no Cricinfo Statsguru for FC games!

Lyon's Test average, which is far more relevant, is 33 (as opposed to his F/C average of 38). Lyon's Test economy rate and strike-rate are also both better than his F/C figures.