Curry & Beer

did you say that when we dropped Martin?

it is a gigantic issue for this club and I don't know why it needs to be a certain distance of time away for you to be comfortable with other people discussing it what date are we allowed to discuss it, let me know and I will put it in my calendar

no they are valid all season long for any player, with any niggle, in any pre-season! Value!

betcha he becomes handy, Stefan Martin style

what difference does it make if it is 2 years or tomorrow?

not much difference between Trac and Oliver to be fair

and what if Freo told us to cram it, and made a lower counter-offer but Jesse was still intent on leaving? We'd have to just cop it on the chin and take whatever Freo feels like giving us is what. If they want to orchestrate some salary cap workaround the tricks are there for anyone to use. Then we just get the standard 'family reasons' excuse. Yeah right, family reasons, but also millions of dollars. Just look out for number 1. That's how it works now. Not only do players not care about staying with their club, they also don't care if the club gets shafted by them leaving and that's what is likely to happen if he decides to go, because as we've all just spoken about, the true compensation for this player is gigantic and we simply won't get it..

agreed. Chris Judd put the first nail in the coffin of what is now well and truly buried - the notion of showing loyalty to your club ahead of squeezing every last drop you can out of whoever will give it to you. It is simply not expected that anyone sticks around if there is a better offer elsewhere and it is very sad IMO.

cue the injury and golden ticket

Explain the comment then, I don't understand what contribution you were trying to make with it

you're a bit special aren't you? What is 'messy' about it, is it there part where there is 100% correlation of improvement across all bolded stats over both years, a pattern that is so obvious, any child with basic numeracy skills would recognise it?

how would YOU describe the trend of these stats?: pf pa apf apa amarg ai50f ai50a ai50diff wins ladder 2013 1455 2691 66.1 122.3 -56.2 40.0 58 -18.0 2 17 2014 1336 1954 60.7 88.8 -28.1 40.5 52.1 -11.6 4 17 2015 1573 2044 71.5 92.9 -21.4 44.4 53.4 -9.0 7 13 credit where it's due, please

Surely it is fair to say that a player who is under 25 is likely to have his best footy ahead of him. With that in mind, our promising players in this group not inc. the newbies are Watts, Trengove, Gawn, Vandenberg, TMac, Bugg, Tyson, Frost, Kent, Kennedy, Viney, Hogan, Salem, JKH, Harmes, Petracca, Brayshaw, Stretch, King and ANB. Is King really arguing that this group is going to perform WORSE than they did last year?

come on mate you have no way in hell of knowing if GWS had come sniffing around Trengove instead of Scully that he wouldn't have taken the cash also. Anybody would have.

who is currently the highest paid player and what does he get? anyone?

I'm more in the camp that we had shyzen d'ment rather than bad drafting. All of the blokes in that picture would have gone very close to the picks we took them at, and at other clubs probably would have all been decent players.

meaning what

not a single person said it at the time though 'oh these skinny non-competitors are going to get us nowhere' I know I am being blatantly negative but it is it that hard to look 5 years down the track and see people lamenting 'all these tough competitors with no skills or brains' or whatever point is that hindsight is crazy accurate, presentsight not so much

does anyone know where to find the odds where you can name your own number of season wins?

It scares the bejeesus outta me to think about how pumped I was the first time I saw it, I was like 'there it is, our premiership core' bloody hell I am cringing history had better not repeat

i wish people would stop quoting that photo, makes me want to cry every time I see it.

the pick of the bunch

Viney would wreck him

I don't think he is going to enjoy his time at Collingwood very much. Their rabid supporter base will turn on him very quickly once they realise he has no value beyond the odd speccy.