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3rd round or latter, none have played 50 games or left with genuine trade currency. Bedford played 10 games in 4 years. Yes, he’ll probably turn pick 75 in to pick 45-50ish if it’s a straight up trade. Whilst not a fail when we never nail picks in that range that’s not a success, just a lateral move.

Remember we have to combine every 3rd round or later pick we get in to 2nd rounds or better because the so called Architect hasn’t nailed a 3rd round pick in the best part of a decade.

Looks a wing or inside/outside midfielder which I think is a position we need - whether we need it enough to go up and get him or if he falls to us I’m not sure. Good frame that should fill out. Think there’s some questions about his contested game, power and I think how his disposal holds up if his first option gets taken away. For instance in this first game as the game goes on he has some lovely disposals but when it’s hot early he’s a bit messy. Absolutely racks it up and uses it with ease on the wing in this NAB league game, but there’s a few shaky moments mixed in as well.

4 smalls was never going to cut it. Worth trying but we needed at least Melk as a medium. The one thing we never tried with Toby at afl level was 5 minute bursts per quarter on ball. His defensive speed and burst form the centre are both potential assets. As a junior he used to swap between forward pocket and centre bounces at Dandy and it wasn’t something I’ve seen a lot before.

I don’t want to be mean to him but I guess you could say he’s very slow?

I’d be shocked if we didn’t offer Hunt at least 1 and most likely a 2 year deal on depth player money. At a minimum the contract Smith signed and likely more. It’s not like we’ve delisted him. His management team probably went and got the best offer available and said to the Dees get within a reasonable amount of this and I’ll stay. If we didn’t up our offer or even pulled the offer knowing we couldn’t get anywhere near his market value then that counts as ‘pushing’ him. Doesn’t mean we didn’t want him on the list, just not at the salary spot he could demand.

Laurie’s not a small forward though, he’s a midfielder. Too slow to be classed as a forward. He’ll be a high half forward at afl level. But he has to start playing full time midfield at Casey from round 1 next year or we should’ve just delisted him.

Sad to lose him because there’s still some upside to his game but it’s hard to keep guys who can’t get regular game time. He makes a lot of sense for GWS

Sorry I should’ve said in my personal opinion. Take out factors like team success, crowds, post footy media careers and family and go by what the cities have to offer - anonymity, climate, activities, beaches - I’ll take Sydney any day. As long as you can afford the $6 lattes.

He’d become the first GWS player to live in Western Sydney if he did. Players leave GWS for generic go home factor, cash and opportunity. Sydney (either club) is still the best city to be an AFL player if you have a good career

You’d be mad to make draft decisions due to the presence of Stringer. Perkins and Sheezel both end up as mids as much as forwards, and they move Davey around too. I wouldn’t be worried about that combination

Sydney were apparently keen on Joel Smith who now is in line to be Hunt’s replacement. And is a downgrade. Next after him is Judd McVee and if you reckon Hunt doesn’t get much of the ball pray that McVee doesn’t play at half back next year. And yeah we get a 3rd round pick, a round that JT hasn’t found a good player in since Hunt! We might draft another Rosman, that will help. I don’t think we’ve turned the list over enough and I don’t think losing Hunt is a disaster, but it’s highly unlikely to be some great move for us. The reasons we were rubbish for 50 years were far more related to poor culture and poor top end talent than keeping depth players. By the way, Hunt debuted in 2016, a year in which we won 10 games. The only year we were really bad was in 2019. Don’t act like he played 100 games between 07-14.

Wouldn’t mind a hobby farm out in Devon Meadow’s with the Harmes’. Grow some trees, plant some veggies, happy days. Might even entertain the suburbs out there if they built a proper rail network connecting the area to Frankston. A Frankston to Cranbourne to Berwick train is such a no brainer of course that will never happen. Build out some housing density and mixed use business areas around the train stations. A couple of apartment blocks at either end of the Casey main oval would provide some much needed relief of the wind and some signs of life out there. I’d move in and watch VFL from my balcony!

I agree, but it does give them a bit of an out that the motivation wasn’t racial even if the result was. The alleged behaviour is at a minimum culturally insensitive, which from there can easily be called systemic racism. Career wise you can still survive that (if some of the allegations don’t stack up). Overt racism not so much.

It’s not a matter of hardball it’s a matter of what’s fair considering the circumstances. It wasn’t hardball with Ben Brown, we didn’t try to talk up his busted knees and offer a 3rd, we gave up a reasonable 2nd. If there’s huffing and puffing it should be from Collingwood trying to appease their members, some of whom are still thinking they’re giving up prime Polly Farmer. A fair expectation on what Grundy will give us is 3-4 years of solid ruck play. Not game changing stuff like he did in ‘19. And not 8 years of it like you’d get from a 24 year old. How’s that worth a first round pick?

Rohan’s a far better player than Henry right now because Rohan’s a defensive tackling force and Henry stands and watches like Fritsch. The Pies we’re trying to educate him at VFL level rather than entrench poor behaviour. But the scary thing is Henry will swap in for Rohan after some Geelong education and provide goal kicking when they finally replace Hawkins with a young full forward. Although they’ll probably replace Hawkins with Harry McKay and not miss a beat!

They’re using Grundy’s money to get McStay for free. We really should just get Grundy for free. Pretty simple formula. They’re paying his wage down to his true worth, and even then it’s a year too long on the deal. They don’t get extra credit for that, they aren’t subsidising him below his market rate. No one would give Grundy 5 years by choice right now. North fans and the media expected Ben Brown to be a first round pick and he wasn’t. This is the same situation. Injured, club wants him out, there’s really no leverage for the Pies. They can have a million dollar ruckman in the reserves or they can cop a second round pick.

I agree there's probably not a lot of new info here. Clarko's been known to be controlling for a long time. Once a school teacher, always a school teacher. But the behaviour towards families and pregnant women does seem beyond the scope of normal psycho footy stuff. In some ways this might help him because he wasn't just picking on Indigenous players, he was willing to give similar treatment to his former captain!

Both can be true. He played VFL after being omitted from the afl side, that’s dropped. But it was injury related. I think his form started to tail off a fraction before injury anyway. He’s our fittest mid, I believe he even beats Langdon on training gps, but it’s a long season for still a young player.

Hunt’s our 23rd best player. Even at West Coast he’s not getting near their top 15. And top 10 players all make 700k+, the next 5 get paid well too, bottom 10 players all make at least 100k plus match payments. 16-30 on the list therefore have to get sandwiched. My guess is the raise in average player wages isn’t matched by the median player wage. We’d have to pay Hunt the median, given he is our median, I doubt that’s anywhere close to 375. West Coast would only have to beat that by enough to justify his move.

I hope we sign him so the cheersquad can go with this outstanding material: Little Red Corbett Baby, you're much too fast Little Red Corbett Need to find a marker that's gonna last

At Freo he could potentially play with Amiss and Taberner or back them up. At Melbourne he might have to get ahead of at least one if not 2 of JVR, Brown or McDonald. Essendon have Wright, Jones and who knows what else. I doubt any club is straight up walking him in the best 22 or paying him like that, so there's not a clear answer.

I agree, and I'll say Ben Brown was probably our only win now player we added. Maybe Tomlinson too - of the players who didn't feature in the flag. The rest were all added to be long time players.

The Cats had 7 of 22 in their flag side. And Id break it down as: 2 big fish (Danger, Cameron) 2 bargain pick ups (Stengle, Rohan) 1 veteran (Smith) 2 targeted moves (Tuohy, Stanley) We had 5. May and Lever were big fish Hibbo and Langdon players we targeted Ben Brown somewhat all of the above Whilst I think the draft and keeping home grown players will always be vital I see no reason why we should be afraid of bringing players in. If we could land a gun key forward I think we would sign them in a flash. Grundy’s not my cup of tea but I can somewhat understand it. And I think we should be absolutely on the look out for bargain buys. Hawthorn did an amazing job in 2009-2011 knowing their star young players needed fresh help. They used the draft and trades for guys like Lake, Frawley, Gibson, McEvoy, Hill, Smith, Shiels. That’s the blueprint

Yze should now take on a coaching challenge tougher than coaching Essendon: We should make him our forwards coach!