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GWS lose Taranto, Hopper and Bruhn and their midfield is now down to Green, Coniglio, Kelly, Whitfield, Ash, Perryman, Callaghan, Ward plus Stone and Angwin as developing players and draft picks. They'll be fine, they can now stock up on forwards and backs which need work. 19's a stretch for sure. I'd love to see 16, but the bigger issue is spreading the talent around.

Depends on what order we want to do things. If we’re confident we can eventually shuffle picks around we might accept the Jackson deal early.

The following top 10 picks I think are more gettable than the others: Pick 5: currently at Adelaide, on the way to GC who seem keen to spread their list with future picks Pick 7: at GC, on the way with Bowes, possibly open to Ess or Geel downgrades. Bombers need more picks, Geel could use more to get trades done Pick 8: at Port, possibly on the way to North who could do better with multiple picks to restock their list Pick 9: St Kilda, think they’ll value multiple picks to restock their youth With 3 of those picks set to move hands I don’t think a Jackson deal will be quick if we want to make sure a top 10 pick comes with it

Knightmare not the best or worst, but surprised he doesn’t get more data on testing times and insight from clubs

I posted the clips so I feel a bit responsible for them. Please note they aren’t highlights but are game compilations, there’s an important difference. Tsatas’ best highlights are no doubt incredible. He’s a big talent. A full game clip when he’s had an interrupted year won’t be nearly as pretty. And his second half was very strong. I’m not in a position to say whether he’s going to be a star or not I just don’t think he’s the type of player that you trade up big time for. If we get pick 9 he looks a good option, if we trade the farm for pick 5 or so, not so much. So far I’ve only seen 2 of the top prospects (apart from Ashcroft) who id put in that category. One is clearly Cadman because if he’s really good he’ll be super valuable and rare. The other, I’m waiting for a thread on.

Spot on. And given his forward pressure is awful Geelong will probably make him work for a game on the wing or half back before unleashing him as a goal kicker anyway. Big loss for the Pies, but they’re losing guys who aren’t in their 22, and McStay fills a far more important need. Ash Jonson is a better version of Henry and teams generally down play 2 medium goal kickers. And the other 3 they’re bringing in will cover gaps as Howe, Pendles and Sidebottom age out. All very cheap and capable, smart recruiting.

Dogs taking Liam Jones might indicate they’d get Lobb in a year. If their young talls still aren’t ready. Personally can’t see Lobb taking no cash or Freo taking nothing for him. We could offer Freo one of our not very good talls if they’re so desperate for an ageing tall who doesn’t want to be there.

A draft profile of a top 5 pick who can’t get a game doesn’t interest me. A lot of recruiters had some doubts on Dow and given his athleticism and ability to kick goals from the midfield that tells you something is missing. Nibbler’s special with his off the ball running. JJ’s incredibly coachable and hard working, he’s quickly adapted to the positioning on the wing. Gus has flaws on the wing but a lot of strengths too. Not sure we can just list off our unfashionable players and assume others can do what they do. Certainly would be happy to have Dow as competition for spots. I’m just not sure he’ll be a match. Last I heard he was linked to the Crows where he’d get a lot of opportunity.

Would like him if he’s cheap but I think he’d still command a little cash, and I don’t think he’d want to leave Carlton only to be stuck behind our mids. Whilst his pace would be something different the biggest issue with his game is he’s a very ‘see ball get ball’ player without smarts. That means he struggles on the wing or forward. He gets lost and doesn’t defend. We aren’t shifting our main mids out of the way to let Dow play an attacking on ball role. And I don’t think he’ll develop as a player unless he’s given the chance to do that.

North very much may look at trading pick 8 if the accept it. Makes more sense for them than Port in some ways. They’ll have pick 2 for an elite talent to replace JHF, they can slide 8 back for a pair of good picks including banking another future pick. Giving they’re getting Logue and Tucker this year they won’t want to bring in too many kids, especially if Clarko’s on a years ban. They probably need to replace some recruiting staff too, having too many high picks this year isn’t a good idea for them.

The most important thing to drop young players for and protect them from is cutting corners. He was caught out cutting recovery and earlier sneaking home. They did a lot of bad stuff, gave him easy games, put him in an awful position (half forward in a [censored] team), but he deserved getting dropped.

If we’re desperately seeking an outside mid I think Ollie Holands is a nicer kick and cleaner through the contest

We can get 4 time All Aus Robbie Gray for a pick in the 80’s

In 2016

Franky Evans and probably Esava are both on their way out. I don’t think a couple of extra games would’ve kept Toby. Opportunity is one thing, cash is the other and GWS should be offering more of both. I think we should’ve rested our injured players because they were injured. And one of the reasons we didn’t was our coaches lacked faith in them. Now we’ve lost 2 of our better ones it’s a worry.

My point is 3rd rounders and later, there’s no point splitting between just 3rd rounders and excluding rookies. Either way, Miers and Kolo plus 5 rookies I named above = 7 in their flag side. More when you add Blicavs, Bews and O’Connor. We had Harmes and he’s the only one still on the list who’s played regular footy now Hunt is gone. I don’t know why this is confrontational. Late picks are all low success dice rolls but we keep striking out.

Maybe we wouldn't have kept patience with Guthrie, but I don't buy that we needed Filipovic. We had Gawn, Spencer and a break in case of necessary 3rd ruck in Pedersen on the list, plus Mitch King as a developing prospect. We're up to 5 years of Oskar Baker, who was 19 when drafted, on the list with very little return. And on the matter if you don't want to accept Stengle which I get, then go with Gryan Miers over Oskar Baker in the same draft. Gryan's played 80 at the Cats, he would've got at least 40. 30+ in 19/20 and 10+ this year even if our 2021 guys are better. At the end of the day I'm not expecting us to draft and develop late picks as well as the Cats. Wells is a master of finding talent. And they get inside knowledge to local players - Henry, Miers and Atkins 3 of them. Plus they've had a heap of late picks due to having so few early ones and that allows them to churn through them. My issue is we're at 0 late picks developed and there's absolutely been room to get guys some games if they were good enough. Goodwin isn't coaching for his job like a young coach in a rebuild desperate to play the top 10 picks, he can pick who he chooses and he just hasn't been compelled to choose anyone. The only non early pick that he chooses somewhat consistently is Joel Smith! It might also be a resources thing. JT and co probably focus on the early picks. We might need to change out personnel or invest more in the depth of our recruiting department.

I don’t think we were running out of legs

Really good size and athlete and looks confident in the air. Positioning, disposal and decision making all look good enough, even if she’s not quite there yet it’s close

Duff man!

Since when do you get to take a down field that goes out on the full from the pocket?

She moved in to the tackle/to ground rather than disposing of it. It’s a vibe thing. Still an awful decisions

It was, but she so consistently tries to take on tacklers and drops her head, sometimes the umps are going to punish it

That was a gorgeous passage of play until the Bannon dropped mark. One the best I’ve ever seen from the girls

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