jayceebee31

We differ with our opinions- Is that allowed??

Seriously R.R -well explained. No Bail's actually said it was a bad kick-did not carry to MacDonald on the full.He also said he has had trouble kicking out when under pressure,sometimes .However, he also said- that you also stated that sometimes a player needs to kick to the side or back to move forward.However, he also stated it is the discretion and decision making that sometimes is the mistake.Grimes- is seriously one of our developing A grade players whom is naturally still learning after playing only 18 games..HOWEVER- I still believe if he continued to make elementary mistakes (and IF it was deemed to be the lack of discipline -he should be dropped).No player is or should be above the team's perspective,being the game plan and trying to perfect it.Tough but true--similar to your job as a Mod..

Dan,I accept your points verbatim.However, I was saying or trying to say is- IF he continued kicking backwards and this was against the game plan - he should be moved forward(which I believe he would be better placed in the team - such as midfielder/ ruck rover-interchanging with McKenzie) or if he stayed in his current role and was again undisciplined then for disciplinary reasons- MAY need to go back to Casey to be seen as setting the example. This is my explanation- because the game against Brisbane we moved the ball through the guts with aplomb --against North we kicked backwards ,kicked into the man on the mark several times, didn't run through the centre, kicked backwards -many times because we could not cope with the pressure..We should have gone through the guts as per our game plan and placed pressure on North..All I have done is picked out Grimes as a player as an example of what I was saying.. and I stick to what I have said.

MELBOURNE B: Cheney, Warnock, Rivers HB: Bruce, Frawley, Macdonald C: Trengove, McKenzie, Garland HF: Davey, Miller, Bate, F: Sylvia, Johnson, Green FOLL: Jamar, Moloney, McDonald I/C: Martin, Jones, Grimes, Scully, EMG: Bartram, Spencer, Hughes,

Without mentioning Grimes's name he was disappointing in the way players kicked backwards as Grimes did last Saturday-stated this on SEN today.I rest my case.

You R C --AND YOU WANT TO BECOME CEO of the MFC..

Fair comments on your reply. I actually watched the replay today. Height and weight was definately a problem.However, you are correct in that- the pressure along with control out of the centre was the major factor.Height in the ruck was a contributing factor here too.

YES THE IRONY OF IT ALL

If you were there- height killed us as well as pressure .Who kicked North's first goal?? Hale who was too big for Warnock. Hale kicked the opening goal for North due to height.. Overall they were so tall and bulky than our players.Another example was Hansen playing on Sylvia- 196 cms tall against 186. Firrito-190,Thompson-190,Grima-193 cms tall against our forward line,Sylvia-186, Petterd-185, Green-184. Have a look at all the players height-we were very short compared to them.I rest my case. Look before you talk.

If you and other posters read what I said,was, he should be moved to a different position-such as the centre or wing. I think his decision making at times is not up to scratch such as against North. I also think that if he remains at HB flank he needs to kick the football forward not backwards. If he continues- Yes put him back to Casey for disciplinary reasons.

And HT,I think you should come to training.You may learn a little from wht Bailey is trying to implement-- re the match against the Lions.Go forward- go through the guts-- not backwards which Grimes stuffed up on many occassions.And at 36 years of age-I'd say I have watched twice as much as you, coached for more than 20 years- stick to being a moderator and not tell other posters what to do.

Not at jayceebee headquarters. Can't you posters read- I said may need to go back to Casey,if he does not learn decision making.And thanks for the compliment.

How many times did players kick back against Brisbane.Virtually nil--and it was stated that we imlemented our game plan perfectly. No twit here. You are just a poster whom can't take it.Grimes has not lived up to his hype this year at this stage.Maybe a run in the guts may help him- because he cannot cope with pressure as yet IMO.

I saw Martin- N0.34 -played poorly. Was you there or like the first match- couldn't make it.

thanks CEO TO BE.

Agree- probably Johnson and Cheney .Joel McDonald also needs to be dropped as well.

What dribble.

What ever he or she said..don't come back.Grimes must learn not to kick back .He has done this several times before placing undue pressure on his other players.If he is not disciplined enough he has to be disciplined and that may mean a trip to Casey.

It is very necessary for the football department to pick a team both on merit and also to match up on their opponents. In this last match, North had such a tall list that we just was out reached everywhere. To not have another tall, even with Rivers coming into the side left Jamar battling hard. Whilst he played well in my opinion- tiredness must and did take over ,although he went forward in the last quarter ,took a great mark and kicked a goal...North had McIntosh,Goldstein,Hale playing in the ruck against Jamar.Also it confirmed to me, that in this match we lacked another very tall defender and at least another tall forward. This is a major requirement for our list manager. Your opinions please?

AGREE TOTALLY-The mistakes he makes in his decision making helped to bring us undone yesterday.Whilst he is a great kick and this is utilized when kicking out, he would be much better utilized in the centre or on wing. If not a run at Casey to help his decion making.

I am so sorry Sir--I forgot you were a Uni student wanting to take over as CEO of the MFC. I didn't think that WYL opinion --That the days of list management are over--I think that list management is the most vital factor of any clubs success.We have had to develop a stronmg list , maintain it and grow - in particular where we have weaknesses.

Do not forget both of these players basically had very little pre season- did not play virtually any NAB cup games - just a couple of scratch matches--it has taken this long to become match fit.

Joel has played fuill back, chb, hbf, wing is that enough..

Well they have the dragons--Chinese dragons are legendary creatures in Chinese mythology and folklore,whilst demons may be described as In religion and mythology, occultism and folklore, a demon (or daemon, daimon; from Greek δαίμων daimôn) is a supernatural being that is generally described as a malevolent spirit; however, the original neutral connotations of the Greek word daimon does not carry the negative ones that were later projected onto it, as Christianity spread. I cannot see a major issue with this..if it did- we may have to be the dragons when we play inChina.

Well posted Nasher..furthermore Joel was a player that fitted into our team needs. He is a defender that can play in many positions and experienced in doing so.The Oz felt he was a round 2 pick up..On current form Alwyn would not get a game in the Senior team..