Adam The God

Very North, but even North weren't making the same mistakes off half back and entering forward 50 that the Tigers have. Next Monday night will be very interesting.

It's application, not the game plan.

They've both butchered this year, particularly Prestia, who is a lot better than he's shown at Richmond. We get our forward pressure right against them and we'll beat them. They've got some worse users than us at the back there.

Yeah, that's fair. Although, St Kilda at Etihad are a tougher proposition than West Coast at the G. West Coast also did a Melbourne v Geelong and wasted so many opportunities.

Yeah, bugger. It'd be nice to even up the injuries a bit.

Potential hip flexor or quad injury for Dusty...

There was a bit at the start of the last, but other than that, I'd probably agree.

Having watched all of Richmond's games (watched the West Coast replay), I reckon they are one of the worst 4-0 teams of all time. They make stupid errors and lack the midfield depth. They haven't played a decent team yet. Collingwood, Carlton, West Coast (at the 'G, who should have put them away) and now Brisbane - they haven't beaten anyone of note. And those first two wins were really scratchy. If we bring forward half pressure and minimise our turnovers as we did in the first two weeks, we should murder them.

Like last season, we were always going to lose some games we expected to win and win some games we are expected to lose. You watch. It was Geelong in 2015. Hawthorn in 2016. Who will it be in 2017?

Kent's fault for mine. I didn't see the Watts smile.

If we don't spank Collingwood, I'll be livid. They are really ordinary and their forwardline is very, very impotent.

That wasn't Watts' fault. The fact Kent can't kick on his opposite side cost us that goal. I'd heard we'd been practicing that all pre-season.

Adelaide were getting back off the mark really quickly last night...

Thanks mate. I agree. Unfortunately, we need an in form Brayshaw out there ASAP. It's a pity we have to rely on these young kids to come through and perform consistently, unlike the elder statesmen on our list.

And both are goal kicking, ball accumulating mids. Both have some questions over their defensive game too. I wonder if that's a GWS learnt thing?

I wonder if it's a work rate thing. We're not the only ones who can't find the sticks consistently at the moment. With the increased kilometres in the legs, are players struggling to convert for this reason?

Acres reminds me very much of Harmes. A hard runner who can get on the end of a couple, but doesn't have the greatest skills. We want St Kilda to win today, don't we? They've got Geelong next week, who you'd hope would account for them.

I thought our forwardline looked alright when we moved it quickly. We barely moved it quickly yesterday. It'll look ordinary again if we don't move it quickly enough against Richmond.

Maybe, OD. Maybe.

I agree. They did look gutted yesterday, but they didn't look gutted after the Geelong loss. I would have been.

Oh. Yes. I remember calling Tom's one on the point post in the third. I said "you watch Tom get smothered here". Sure enough. Tom is one of the biggest worries for mine. He has gone backwards in the last 20 or so games he's played.

I agree our list isn't quite there yet, but Clayton Oliver is undoubtedly a great ball user and I'm not sure most sides have more than a couple of quality ball users. Oliver is probably equal with Salem IMO. And I'm leaving out Watts here. Tell me how many good ball users the Hawks had in their heyday. Lewis, Mitchell, Hodge and Smith? I'd say Hodge's ball use is the equivalent of Jones' off half back. Oliver could well be as good as Mitchell. We have Lewis on our own list, but let's say Salem is a similarly good kick. I reckon we just lack that beautiful kicking outside runner in the Smith mould. Josh Kelly is that sort of player. So we're really one less good ball user down than one of the greatest teams of all time. Even if you look at the Judd's, Cripps', Dangerfield's, Selwood's etc, none of them are great by foot. What about the Bulldogs' ball users? It's probably Suckling and Murphy. We have Salem and Lewis for the moment off our half back. Sydney haven't had the greatest ball users either. I don't think this is our biggest problem.

I think we're not smart enough at times. That Kent goal for example. Lucky he dobbed it. The shot was on the correct side for Oliver. What Clarry should have done is pretend it was his and see if he could con the umpire. Instead, he waited for Kent to get up and gave him the ball. Clarry is a lovely kick. Just these little things we need to get smarter and better at.

I was expecting this to get us more often, but I think our speed of ball movement is just as dangerous to an opposition. Yesterday though, we didn't move it quick enough or take the required risk to get it moving quickly. But, you've got to remember their spread didn't win them the game. I'd argue their straight kicking did.

1) Disagree. He has the wood over both Betts and Wingard. 2) Hogan should go back and Watts stay forward. Hogan did this in the GWS win last year.