Adam The God

I hope we get him, even though he's a nuffy.

I'm liking OD Version 10.0.

Wowee. Port absolutely bossed that.

I like it, Rooter. If Geelong rate Henry at pick 13, which given he was a pick 17 and has shown some handy glimpses at the top level could be a fair trade. I'd want Georgiades ahead of Whitfield though.

Not necessarily. He could also have said it to... ensure we didn't get [censored] over.

Again, this posturing for their fans, so it appears they didn't lie down straight away and say thank you daddy.

I thought you couldn't meet mid season either, but we met with Grundy mid season too. I think that as a rule has just gone completely out the door.

Agreed. But I'll be happy to say it's risky if at the end of this year's trade and draft period, we only have Gawn and Grundy as a ruckmen. Otherwise, yes, I'll probably reserve judgement until next year

I just think to be hyperventilating over this stuff before we can see the sum of all parts is just needlessly working yourself up. Quite happy to join some of that commentary once the trade and draft periods are over (if our list remains as it stands currently), but earlier than that is premature. And it's rarely good to be premature.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. If we do the deal and he doesn't say anything up top 10 picks, some nuffy supporters complain that we just rolled over. Further, it's also a good way of showing the supporting base what they'd like and bar. Even if you don't get it. And yet most neutrals are saying we're easily ahead in this deal. It's only the eternal wristslashing MFC supporters that think we got dudded.

You said Freo saw the writing on the wall and drafted all WA kids last year. Well, their entire midfield is made up of Victorians. Jackson now being the exception.

Both Victorians mind you. Does undermine your "we can never draft a West Australian again because my feelings might get hurt" thread?

This is bluster for their fans. Just as Lamb coming out and saying we wanted two first round picks for Jackson. It's optics.

Jeepers you're swing like the breeze mate. So reactionary.

If Carlton thought that way they wouldn't have their Brownlow medallist captain. You draft best available and back yourself to retain them, unless they're saying in pre draft interviews that they only want to be in WA or SA or wherever, but if that was the case they'd also fail the other tests we put them through.

People started that when it looked like he'd leave.

I agree although I think the 24 hour news cycle and social media is impacting all generations though.

Of course it is. I tend not enter into the generational warfare stuff. It gives me the [censored]. Is it an increase in anxiety/depression or is it a better ability to diagnose conditions and seek help for them without being socially shunned? Edit. @BDA nails it above.

Thanks for this mate. RE the idea of structured and unstructured players, I reckon we clearly had too many structured players and not enough unstructured. Certainly forward of the ball anyway.

I think we might look to change up our intercept game next season, but a few things play into this. Does Petty move forward to partner Max and JVR? If he does, we have another decision to make. Do we replace him with a tall like Turner (or Tomlinson if he's still here) to free up May or Lever to intercept, or do we look to go smaller and more mobile at ground level behind the ball? With the acquisition of Grundy, and I'm going to offer my opinion to your question above @Engorged Onion, I think there's less need for this extra tall down back as Grundy or Gawn will play behind the ball. Of course, this leaves us potentially vulnerable against a taller set up from a direct centre stoppage situation, but Goodwin is a percentages coach, and I think he'll back our centre square work to win more often than not. This means I think we may look to go smaller and replace Petty with a medium quicker player. Our back 6-7 from centre stoppage could be the following: Bowey - May - Hibberd Salem - Lever - someone like Woey / Brayshaw If we were really getting beaten in the air (from say 3 talls), we could even play Max behind the ball from a 6-6-6 position. From a non centre bounce stoppage situation, I think more pressure on the ball carrier will bring in the intercepting of either Grundy and Max (I think they'll mostly rotate behind the ball, based on who is the central ruckman), plus May and Lever. I also think we may not always play a ruckman forward of the ball. We may push two rucks behind the ball to clog up space and conversely open up space for our slingshot going back the other way, and let our smaller quicker players go to work. I think a better pressure rating from our forwards and mids will strengthen our intercept game, but I also wonder if our FD thinks a chink in our armour this year was our interceptors being scragged or knocked off the ball, and the danger this presented us once the ball hit the deck. If they're thinking this way, it would make sense to get players who are good at ground level behind the ball. Bowey is our cleanest, but even an acquisition like Hunter might be an option at half back.

I think we've long identified that we could do with more good kicks on the team. And to be honest, this should be a perpetual focus of any list management for any team. Particularly, if you can combine this with the pieces we already have in place - the inside bulls that win contests in outnumbered situations.

Exactly. That's what I believe. Some on here are claiming Weideman is tied to Jackson.

Beat me to it haha. You're a year older than me and therefore like me, a Gen Y. Treating one group of people as a monolith hasn't been that helpful in the recent past and it amounts to nothing more than patronising, needless culture wars.

So we must want the Bedford pick for some other reason, otherwise why wouldn't we just use the Bedford pick, rather than move Weideman out for it? Unless the Weideman deal isn't related to the Jackson deal.

Agreed. I wonder if they'll try and play Fritsch higher across half forward, which allows him to double back and follow the mids, and use his natural goal sense. Salem, Bowey, Hunter, Fritsch and Spargo all good kicks.