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apparently, not.

stats can be a bloody nuisance during a match. umpiring stats should be kept private from the umps, until after the game.

I would hope our people, are speaking to all prospective trades/free-agents people. murphy's not, the lone ranger. Now, I think I may understand ? ... just a darryn hunch mind. ??? https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/06/22/contract-talk-a-laugh-says-gws-star-kelly/ ???? We have to spend salary cap every season, don't we ? have to park some somewhere, short term?

vale` Geoff.

Preuss or Lycett, Lobb,... Rory Lobb, already mature,,, in a team that has gone backwards this year. He has the best marking average over his career, of these 3 rucks. Lobb an Lycett are ready to roll, to fill in Now. I think strong marking and big numbers of marks, is the key. the rest can follow, if you will. These types can ruck, or be dangerous forward. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - players of interest ? for our side. Lachie Whitfield. Matt Buntine. . If DShiel shakes loose, I want us to know.

I'm sure there is more options than three. And i'm sure some have left a team and may look for another, and some family's turn some members off a club. We need to be like the corner store. We need to be in the sight of all who pass the area; and sometimes just from curiosity, or convenience, We may pickup some extra's each and every year we are there. Eventually they will all add up. We have wallowed for decades, dithered, twiddled thumbs, prayed, hoped, begged, and nearly merged, and generally done SFA. All because we the club, have been too stubborn and afraid, to change.

He's a hard competitor, and big; but we do not know how good he can or can't be, at this time ? I think we need one more power inside player to add to rotations... along with a number of more skilled inside/outside types, who can run and deliver. Hopefully some with speed. We are one paced,,, not slow, but not quick. IMO we need a couple more with some breakaway speed, for the mid section of ground. # so it we trade Tyson, we'll need 2 more inside players. Hopefully Sloane,,, and maybe one of Maynard or VDB will come good?

I have the feeling hells-bells want the supporters, who are already inclined to come along. I want those who aren't Melbourne, so we can have a chance to let them fall in love with the D's. to become aligned. Those of us who are committed, will go where-ever training is. In one sence, this feels like how this club wins when things are going our way... but when things are tougher, we sort of shrug shoulders and let it go by. Lets take on the tougher challenges... REAL Change.

No you don't get it because you are not in the demographic that doesn't have a following. You are the same as the directors choosing this site. Your all welded onto the club, and the job. It's not people like you, that we can find, to help them become footy people, and become Melbourne people. The location panders to those who are already decided in their choice. I AM RAPT the club has decided to take this decision to create our home base... absolutely R.A.P.T. But we (Mfc) lack base numbers of followers, supporters, and then long-term regular members who'll stay tight. This decision ought NOT be thinking about MONEY... it ought be about winning new hearts and minds. just getting big numbers of people to our training and functions. We ought to have a BarBQue or hotdogs at virtually every training session for our watchers alike the old Hawks once did. time-fame of day permitting. We ought to think of it as breakeven, or a slight loss even;... just to start to make good relations with people who are inquisitive about the footy club. WE need big numbers coming along and getting interested, and hopefully we can start to make new supporters, and maybe even new Demon families. Gosch's Paddock is the high Profile site, to help us to do this. .

I'm saying we should try to get the people who have not made up their minds yet,,, as to footy,,, or a footy club.. IF people around our development area are half a mind to go to training, to bring the kids;,,, or the kids are nagging mum or dad, and the parent is 50/50... having the easier access to destination could help make the decision. this is going to be a longterm thing so make it easy so wecan be in contact with as many people as we can be. If they're Keen enough to get to training, then they have already selected the club. Why try to get the the ones who are already onboard. Open the club up.... don't hide it away, so it becomes some sort of collectors item, down in Wellington Pde. This is not the way to grow... It's the way to survive. To maintain, rather than to grow_ So, in order to attract those who aren't Melbourne... we have to have ourselves on display,,, where anyone, and everyone can come along, and be made to feel most welcome. Really simple...... just have to come along, and we will gladly try to make you feel like one of us. So we need to bee seen, from the trains and we need to be just outside the transit... trams. trains. buses. cars. trucks. motor bikes. prams. bicycles... even a stray dog, we can sign up. Yarra Park Who can see us from the Trains, at Yarra Park ?? seems to me, we can see them, but they can't see us. Who can see us from the Trams, at Yarra Park ?? seems to me, we can see them, but they can't see us. It's all nice and handy for the Mcc members, and Mfc members based in the northern stand, but where's the new supporters around there? Where.... no where. This is not a growth area. Its a consolidation area. It's a retirement package, that says remember me Demons. Maybe we could turn it into a retirement home for lost Mcc members, as they age? Because we are not going to get many people there, who are not already dedicated to a club. .

that's why we need speed. Don't know if many have heard,,, speed kills. Endurance is all good, but speed cracks things open.

Keen enough....... this is ,the Key', we differ on. this is why we fail in past decades. we do not need to attract those KEEN enough. We want to attract those who are half-hearted,,, and with children. This is where we will make our new growth from. Attracting these people and making them FEEL welcome, and not judged. Those welded on's, are not the ones we should be aiming this project at... as lovely and leafy as this Yarra Project looks, it's the wrong location,,, for our potential NEW Growth of supporters. Same attitude, and the very same mistakes again, as in the past. These concepts are all based in 'pretty'. 'lovely'. and to appeal to those whom are already attached to the club. They are all designed for those already, in the inner-sanctum.

Are you kidding me. These people, some will have to travel a fair way. On a train or trains... the whole idea of enticing new people to the club, is to make everything easy for them to start showing interest, and attendance. To make it as easy as possible for these potential newbies, that are not committed either way. Those with just a hint of interest. Some may be single parents: some not interested if foot: but the children maybe. IF Gerry Harvey was to start his business on a status model, designed to be 'pretty', and to attract those already attached to the club, He would go broke, before he was in business for 2 years. He would not get the high volumes of passing trade that he needs to stay afloat, by having his outlets in difficult to get to spots. He would make the stores as easy as possible, to attend, and to buy his wares. I think this Yarra-Park concept is aimed at the already attached, and 'the well to do',,, who travel Wellington Pde on a frequent basis. I DO NOT think this is about growing our base, and increase our Casey Region relationships, at all.

what is verbose?

No,,, I have nothing to do with the design, or political concept of it, at all;,,, Except that I am the one who has been pushing this barrow of a HQ's and Training/Social Base since back around 2008-9__ or somewhere back there... so that the club can get its Soul Back again... and to reconnect with the people. In order for this club 'to stop bleeding internally' (supporter numbers), and so it might start to grow once again. I am the sole player in this, pushing for the club to be independent and grow bigger and stronger,,, and to stop leaning on the support of the Mcc. Because that is purely survival based;,,, instead of creative aggressive growth based ideas, around making this club enter into this New-Millennia and get more power, stronger in its own right. To stand on its own, under its own strength, and will !

Those are the areas of our support base stronghold; so these are areas we need to cater for, making it easier for them to feel connected to the club, and easier for them to attend training sessions, functions, etc. Cranbourne is a new area we are supposed to be building relationships with. In a view to attraction more new supporters. To help them be interested in Mfc and in Aussie Rules footy.

We used to train close to Swan st. There seems no built in barriers to changing the setup, which is layed out on the grass... unless they have layed concrete kerbs, and put fences in there, since I last went to training. A layout made with white chalk lines, defining where clubs train is not above being changed. Are you suggesting that the soccer club is over and above Us, in the city ? If we wanted to build over Swan st and had approval I feel sure that we would get the lay of land which suited our proposal. - - - - - - - - - - - - look, answer a simple question, straight out for me. In our growth corridor that we are developing, around the Casey region, Do you think we are more likely to get any interested visitors, from down around Berwick, Pakenham, or Cranbourne to watch training and see Our players,,, at Gosch's Paddock,,,, or Yarra Park. Which do you think they would find easier to attend, to show interest in and visit with their children ? See, I'm not about catering to the rusted-on patrons of the club, as they will go to either location... I am all about, 'new people interest' in our club. With people, just starting to take an interest in us... Not the full-on Demon diehards who are already attached.

is that payTV

and Rory Lobb & Lycett.

Covered walkway over the Richmond Rail lines... the promenade I believe covers the Rail lines and joins up the the Mcg at around Gate7,,, walk straight into the ground. Our Swan street building would join onto the promenade, from OUR 2nd floor.

No one has proposed to build a training complex H/Q's at these suburbs Gonzo. You know that, anyway. We are talking about Gosch's, and Jolimont. And the need for Taxi trips to Jolimont from the southern suburbs. another coward.

No, our H/Q's should be here >>> opposite 112 Olympic Blvd, Melbourne, Vic 3004 Across Swan Street from Gosch's Paddock. To be built backing up against the Richmond Railway Station... a 4 Story building, with underground & ground level parking... >>> we have to build over and across Swan Street, and the Tram Lines, and the footpath on Swan St up to the edge of Gosch's. Here > https://www.google.com/maps/place/112+Olympic+Blvd,+Melbourne+VIC+3004/@-37.8243568,144.9865561,261m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x63575fd647a0b2f9!2sMelbourne+Cricket+Ground!8m2!3d-37.8199669!4d144.9834493!3m4!1s0x6ad642943affc621:0x23259ce926eaf48e!8m2!3d-37.8245886!4d144.9868238

It has nothing to do with how many extra minutes walk... It's the extra step in the chain they have to negotiate, that would put people off. I'm not talking game day. I'm talking about other days, weekdays, and for functions, or dropping in to training etc. We will lose support at the Yarra-Park location, instead of gaining numbers. Only the rusted on will still attend, instead of us growing. It's the commuter traffic on the trains heading home out of the city, that when about to pass our H/Q's,,, that this Swan St location would encourage people to get off the train on the way home, and drop in.

Hi timbo. Not sure If you understood my post earlier. Our corridor (Malvern, Moorabbin, Bentleigh, Oakleigh, etc), is/was our strong hold from years gone-by, Re supporters. But that's Not my training location, suggestion. I'm suggesting we stay at Gosch's paddock,,, and build our H/Q (a 4 or 5 story complex), between Swan St and Richmond Railway Station,,, which should be built over Swan Street, across to the edge of Gosch's. Overseeing Gosch's and our training ground there. This is a big deal;,,, building over Swan St and the tramlines,,, but not as big a challenge as building over the Jolimont Railway lines. The thing is, we would be right on the doorstep of the Major Rail lines servicing the East of Melbourne, the Sth-East of Melbourne, and the South of Melbourne, all the way to Hastings/Finders, the Mornington Peninsular, and Eastern Victoria. The building at this locale would open onto the Richmond Station Promenade from the 1st or 2nd floor. This Promenade would take us along to the Mcg, City end,,, without having to negotiate ramps or steps/stairs. We can do this. .

em, Bob Murphy is a beauty. The doggies modern day Dougie Hawkins... who also sang Robbie Flowers praises. Is rob sitch on here, demonland ? 'demon9' perhaps.... new know, a sitch in time saves nine. or something along those lines ? Actually, come to think of it. CH-9 could do with him.