MadAsHell

@Petraccattack was the one with the info. Interested in their thoughts,

Has been mentioned by another poster (I can't remember who) that apparently we're into him. Delisted by Brisbane, he's been plagued by groin issues over his first two seasons restricting him to about 15-20 NEAFL games. Comes in at about 194cm and 83kg, he looks to move pretty well, can take a mark and is also capable of playing at either end which is a good quality for players to have now. If he were also capable of being able to rotate onto a wing he's the exact type of player our list could do with. I'm not sure if the club are looking at him as a delisted free agent or rookie. But interested to hear people's thoughts on the kid who was the Lions first pick in the 2014 draft and also the poster who first mentioned we were into him.

Given there's still restrictions on what the banned players can and can't do, he may not be allowed to officially name a club he wants to go to. Who knows?

I assumed that was just an Essendon thing.......

I note Laverde and Essendon still haven't struck a deal. Now there's a kid with serious talent. Wonder if it would be worth offering Essendon our 2017 1st Round Pick along with someone like Matt Jones, Newton, Vandenberg, Neal-Bullen, Kennedy-Harris or Michie for both Laverde and Hibberd? Laverde effectively becomes our 2017 1st Round Pick with 3 years under his belt. The kid can seriously play!

He has played a fair bit of VFL football this year compared to the last two which is something. However his form hasn't been great..... http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/114802/Nathan-VARDY

As far as Lyons goes, maybe it's just me, but I'm not that into him. See him as a role player along the lines of Prismall when at Geelong, Young at Hawthorn etc that come across better then they may in fact be at a different club. I'd back us in to develop any of Vandenberg, Harmes or Neal-Bullen to be at least equal to if not better then Lyons.

When did Barrett come out with that perler?

I think once we trade our 2nd Round Pick for Hibberd & swap 3rd Round Picks with Geelong for Vardy (ideally we could get him as a DFA though), our first pick may not be till about 54.

Firstly where did Pick 6 to St Kilda come from??? Their first pick is 10. As for getting back into the first round, i see our best bet of that happening by trading our 2017 1st Round Pick (possibly with Garland or without) for one of Gold Coast or GWS's first rounders this year to allow them to spread their 1st Round picks out over a couple of drafts.

He is. Injuries over the years are a worry though.

I rate Hrovat as a player, but again he's more of an inside mid where we'll already have the likes of Trengove, Kennedy, Vandenberg & Neal-Bullen as depth. I suspect any players we bring in may be more outside types or key position.

Now wife still a saints fan. Been together since 2008 and we've still not been able to knock them off in that time. Have a 4 & 1 year old son who are both elect Melbourne supporters and signed up members. Oldest has a number 7 jumper and youngest 15 jumper given their old man used to watch Viney & Stretch running around when he was a kid.

He's got huge talent and a fully fit Vardy would compliment the side very well. I'm concerned about his body though and wonder if Tom Campbell would be a better option?

After Darling's last 2 finals, I'd steer clear.

Another problem with keeping Watts as a part timer in this role is if you look at all the premiers this century, the filth in 2010 are the only team that had one specialist ruck with a part time pinch hitter in Leigh Brown. All the others have played two rucks, with one playing mainly as a forward. As many have pointed out, Weideman is still very raw. Best case scenario and Hogan stays, there's no problem with making the Weed earn his spot at Casey and having him come in when injury/suspension/form warrants it. Tom Campbell from Western Bulldogs & even Shaun McKernan at Essendon are two role players that I think are worth looking at who could fill this void. Certainly not stars, but fit the club bill of competative and physical players. Both mentioned in the attached article and both have reasonable numbers. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-14/delisted-whos-on-the-chopping-block-at-your-club TOM CAMPBELL http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/player-profile/tom-campbell http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/114689/Tom-CAMPBELL SHAUN McKERNAN http://www.essendonfc.com.au/player-profile/shaun-mckernan http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/112847/Shaun-MCKERNAN Campbell turns 25 this off season and McKernan has just turned 26, so both have plenty left in the tank. On top of this I'd like to see the club draft Darcy Cameron from Claremont out of the WAFL, who's another option for this role going forward. Has played mainly forward this year to good effect while previously mainly being a pure ruckman. Only turned 21 this year, so has had some miles in his legs already, so if required should be ready for senior football. 36 goals in 2016 while averaging more then 12 hit outs a match. http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/4672 Just my thoughts anyway.

Think this could be the guy. I'm starting to cool on other options like Vardy (injury issues) and Zac Clarke (effectiveness as a forward). Tom Campbell is a good ruck who's aggressive at the contest and can take a grab forward. He also combined well with Roughead earlier this year to limit Max's effectiveness when we played them. I'd still like usto also draft Darcy Cameron as an option in this role, but Tom Campbell followed by Shaun McKernan I think would be the two best candidates for this vacant position of ours.

Was Weller & Pick 3 Gaff & Pick 12

To any in particular or all of the above?

Any of; Straight swap for Fyfe. Pick 3 & Weller or Pick 12 & Gaff

Sorry stuie, but pretty sure the future trading of picks rules state that if you trade your future 1st Round Pick you can't trade any of your other future picks. You can trade any number of 2nd, 3rd, 4th round picks though.

I didn't say they wont get Pick 7, I said he alone isn't worth Pick 7, that's why it would be Hill & Pick 14 or 16 for Pick 7.

Free agent.

Agree Hill is not worth Pick 7, that's why there would be another 1st Rounder coming with him. Hawthorn have already said they want a 1st Round Pick & Freo have no 2nd Rounder to try and use. Also agree Langford is not worth a 1st Round Pick, but a mature midfielder & Pick 7 is probably a lot closer to currency for O'Meara given he hasn't been on the park in 2 years. Two top 10 picks is dreaming. As for Sydney, they're desperate for tall defenders & a 1st Round Pick to go with him is what they would want one would think.