MadAsHell

What a shame the only two players listed that weren't in post #506 are contracted for 2016.

Pretty sure Matt Jones & Terlich are contracted. Doubtful, but we can dream!

Currently my thoughts for end of season: TRADE: Howe Grimes Fitzpatrick RETIRE/DELIST: Jamar McKenzie Bail Think the big turnover will come at the end of 2016. Given we're coming into a weak draft we may have the calm before the storm this year.

From what I've seen of Gorringe, and I'll admit it isn't heaps. He seems an aggresive style ruckman who'll really smash in at the ruck contest, and he's still yet to fully develop. He can also take a mark. Not saying I'd bring him in as our number 1 ruck, but I wouldn't mind bringing him in for competition with Gawn. Spencer doesn't inspire me with confidence as our back up to Gawn going forward. As for Plowman, I see him in a different light to both Frost & Oscar. I see both them as genuine key position defenders, and when fit I'd have Frost in the 22 with T. Mac, Dunn & Garland. Plowman is more in the Sam Fisher type mould where he'd be playing on a third tall rather then one of the two keys, and he's a guy who's hands it'd be good to get the ball into when coming out of defence. But I'm happy to draft one of those positions & trade in the other. Will be another interesting off season.

Spot on! I've now come to the view that we may just look for an outside mid with pace = Yarran And one of either a young ruckman = Gorringe Or a young third tall rebounding defender for post Dunn/Garland = Plowman Get Yarran & one of the other two, then go to the draft. Howe, Grimes, Fitzpatrick for trade. Starting to warm to the idea of holding onto Toumpas & Watts.

Watts was one of our best last night. After his dropped mark against Collingwood I thought he was very good also, and I thought he was one of our best in Round 1 v Gold Coast. He's our best users of the footy and from all reports is an absolute great bloke who loves the club, Roos, McCartney & Goodwin. The issue we face with Jack is his form fluctuations, and the fact that if we keep him, he's a free agent at the end of 2016 and if he were to walk we may loose him for less then we could get for him if we were to trade him at the end of this year? The other problem I think is that to me, I think he & Howe are competing for the one spot, the third tall forward who's also agile enough to push up the ground, but can still take a mark and kick a goal. Howe certainly a better contested mark and goal kicker. Watts is a much better user of the footy and over the last two weeks has shown an ability to win his own ball at times in the middle. Both can push up onto a wing or half back, so which way do we go? I don't have the answers. Howe could get us more in a trade this year. But he's one of the few highlight reels the club has, especially with young fans, and as our midfield gets better, he could really prosper from better supply. But same could be said for Watts. So for me it's one or the other. If Howe signs on the dotted line soon, then I think we should trade Watts. If we trade Howe out I hope we keep Jack and back him in all the way!

Surely not!?? And I'd rather keep Col then let him walk. Don't have an issue with any of your other suggestions, although I believe all of M. Jones, Michie and Terlich are contracted...

With Fitzy and Pedo finding form and Riley having an impact in his first game, it may take a little longer to figure out some of the likely delistings.

Harsh on Trengove when we need mids.Also reckon Cross has one more year in him.

Don't recall saying you can lock them in for a delisting, just that they'll need to show something to ensure they remain on the list before the years out. They'd hardly be the first players delisted after 2 years. And that's not just us, look at all the clubs and you'll see a similar list turn over.

Pretty sure Matt Jones and Terlich are contracted? At this stage i'd probably add Jamar and Riley to the list though. Also Max King and Jayden Hunt will both need to show something at VFL level before the season is out. As for Trengove, i can't see any takers given his injury history. I'll back him in to make a full recovery and become a vital cog in our midfield rotation.

Reckon he'll still get overlooked for the rising star nomination this week. They'll give it to Cripps of Carlton. 33 touches and a goal!

Very dominant win by the Aussies in the ODI final tonight. Crushed England and sets us up nicely to repeat the dose to them come Valentines Day. In a blow though it looks like Faulkner has picked up a side strain injury and could be out of the World Cup! Very big loss given he's a valuable asset both with the bat as a finisher batting at number 8, we saw his 50* off 24 balls today as proof. Not to mention his ability to bowl at the death of the innings. His injury could well be Watson's life line I think. Fingers crossed the injury isn't to bad and we'll see him in a few weeks. Well done to the Aussies so far. This summer we've won the T20 series v South Africa, won the ODI series against them also, won the Test series aainst India and now the tri ODI series v India & England. Only the World Cup to go.

Youngest player to reach the quarter finals at two slams since a guy called Roger Federer. He could be something special. Seems to be a more driven version of Philippoussis.

Not much made of the win on friday night? England 8/303 (50) I. Bell 141 J. Root 69 M. Ali 46 G. Sandhu 2/49 (10) M. Henriques 1/34 (7) J. Faulkner 1/59 (10) Australia 7/304 (49.5) S. Smith 102* S. Marsh 45 B. Haddin 42 M. Ali 2/50 (10) C. Woakes 2/58 (9.5) S. Finn 2/65 (10) Thought we actually won that a bit easier then the score card suggested thanks to another Smith ton and some great bowling at the death from out bowlers. For me that's three of our last five games where our bowlers in the last 10 overs have brought the opposition score back about 20 runs then what they looked set to score. Game 4 v RSA @ MCG, our 2nd Tri Series match v India @ MCG and this match just gone against England. What was most pleasing aspect of the win for mine was the XI that we did it with, it was almost a 2nd XI against a full strength England team, so we surely must be shortening for the World Cup. Here's a pretty good XI that didn't play on friday. N. Maddinson D. Warner S. Watson M. Clarke G. Bailey M. Marsh M. Wade N. Coulter-Nile M. Johnson X. Doherty J. Hazlewood Arguably a better XI then the one we put out on friday.

Some serious questions need to be asked of the Stars after their 4th straight semi finals loss! 1) Should Cameron White stay captain? 2) Luke Wright had an ordinary season. Is it time to look for another overseas player? 3) Should we keep Faulkner & Maxwell on the list given they're always likely to miss the back end of the seasons due to ODI commitments? 4) Is it time to move on players like David Hussey, Clint McKay, Rob Quiney? I think the Stars has some excuses this year unlike last year. Apart from Maxwell & Faulkner who are in the ODI squad, we've also been without Hussey since the 4th game, Stoinis all season who would have been a vital cog IMO with his batting and medium pacers and we only got Handscomb available from our 7th game. Still it's a let down though.

Nervous first half.

Remarkable victory really. When they were 3/28 at the start of the 6th over I thought they were gone and never even thought they were the slightest chance until there were about 6 overs to go and I realised they still hadn't let the run rate blow out. Hastings then went bang and McKay got some valuable runs allowing poor Handscomb to catch his breath. The poor guy looked like Dean Jones in Madrass 1985! A great effort from the Stars and tat now makes in 5 in a row! Funny though, I'd actually rather then finish 4th and play Adelaide then 3rd and play Perth. But I guess we'll find out after we see how much Sydney Sixers win by tonight to see who finishes where.

Yeah I think Stoinis is still some time off sadly. Keath should come in for Boland and bat at 7, just to bolster the batting. But although they've done well to turn things around the Stras I can't see them going any further then the semi's. Got it correct there GRR. Especially Mel McLaughlin, love, love, love! Although you're wrong on Flemo IMO, most entertaining one there.

In a concerning sign leading into the World Cup. I don't know what this scorecard says for Afghanistan less then a month out. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/812645.html Bowled out for 63 by Scotland! And the Afghans will have to face the likes of Johnson, Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood on a bouncy WACA pitch on Wednesday March 4. We might bowl them out for under 20 if they can't make many runs against Scotland on the slow tracks of Abu Dhabi....

Fingers crossed for the Pattinson/Cummins partnership in years to come. Could easily become the most dangerous new ball partnership in World Cricket. Back onto last night though, thought it was really good the questioning between Ricky Ponting & Kevin Pietersen in the commentators box. I found it really insightful and interesting stuff. Actually opened up a new respect I have for KP and especially Michael Vaughan at how he managed & captained his team and was able to bring the best out in his team mates.

The problem that I have with it is I see it as something that isn't necessary. At least with cricket, the shortest format of the game before T20 came along went for 7.5 - 8 hours. I understand the Federer v Hewitt game went for just under 2 hours as a best of 5 sets. Well that's about the same amount of time a best of 3 sets match goes for, so for the people who don't like 5 set matches, why don't they just avoid Grand Slams and Davis Cup? Yeah, it'll take some time before it has me convinced.

Haha, clearly not a Heat fan gs? Was a weird match last night. Didn't think a team would ahve so much trouble chasing 81 for victory. Pattinson's 2nd ball of the match to bowl Burns was an absolute jaffa! Nothing Burns could do.

They were clinical last night with the 4-0 drubbing of Oman, a country that's troubled us in the past. Now a sure thing of playing in the Quarter Finals and will play South Korea on Saturday to determine who tops the group. Matt Leckie is establishing himself as a very good player as is Luongo. And to make it all the more better they just completed the 7th leg of my 11 leg multi!

Yeah Zimbabwe should be the ones to go. Only problem is BCCI probably wont allow it as it may mean one less vote for them on the council. It's really sad the powr they have over the game. I think Ireland's best chance of getting test status is if Afghanistan also get it at the same time. That way there's another Asian nation there that India can control on the council and rely on for votes.