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A year younger and had played 21 out of 22 games with a team with a 10 & 12 record Compared to a year older, not as skilled and played 13 of 22 games in a team with a 4 & 18 record. Barlow's a 3rd Rounder at best.

No disrespect to Barlow, but a soon to be 29 year old is not worth what could potentially be Pick 19 or even 36 IMO.

I'll have to do a count and let you know. I think I've actually cut back compared to last year? Just checked. So I've started a total of 8, however one was just about Fremantle's interest in Spencer and another was a joke thread about Conca which I make obvious in my opening. So I'm responsible for 6 legit being: Nick Dal Santo, Zac Clarke, Brent Harvey, Brennan Cox, Tyler Keitel & Josh Watts. Not saying we should recruit all 6, but they all have something they may offer. Although now I'm not that keen on Clarke.

Given there's a chance we may not be coming in to the draft until around Pick 40 odd, I thought I'd start a thread on a potential draft candidate for us. At 193cm & 90kg out of Woodville-West Torrens, Cox could help fill our gaping hole in Key defensive stocks that is building with the likely departures of Dunn & Pedersen. I've previosuly mentioned Tyler Keitel as a mature age target for this area, well Cox would be a good candidate also IMO with more of a long term out look. He looks competetive and capable of playing at either end with a strong pair of hands. Kicking may be a slight issue, however that hasn't held back our other key backs. Anyway, thought I'd post this and some footage for everyone to check out.

So now we're giving up Hogan & two draft picks for Wright & Gaff????

Think Voss is a little unlucky to fall into the same category. Had them in a semi final in 2009, then stuffed up with a top up in 2010 which saw them go 7 wins 15 losses & then 4 wins 18 losses in 2011. Got them back to 10 wins 12 losses in both 2012 & 2013 and was righting his wrongs when in my opinion was unfairly given the sack. Sliding Doors moment where who knows what would of occured if they stuck with Voss.

Wonder if he'll do as well as Johann Wagner did? Or Ian Holland from cricket superstar?

The unfortunate thing with him being a WA boy and the Wizard playing over 100 games for both the Dees & Dockers is that one suspects Freo will have the inside lane.

Tell me about it. 21 year old key forward only kicking 41 goals in his 2nd year of competitive footy. What a poor return!

Darcy Cameron Claremont 204cm/104kg 18/7/95 Cameron was overlooked at the 2013 NAB AFL Draft with a query on his pace and his consistency in competing. But he's improved those aspects of his game and presents as a mature-age tall who is able to play in the ruck and in attack. Cameron has enjoyed a solid season at WAFL level for Claremont.Darcy Cameron during the 2013 NAB AFL Draft Combine. Picture: Darrian Traynor

5 hours later and nil comments from our WA Demons, so not much light to shed. Found some footage of his U18 year 2 years back. Looks to have mainly been a forward back then who occasionally played back, but must have made a more permanent switch since playing seniors in the WAFL. He looks a very good mark. As I said, if Dunn is moved on, I think he could be worth a rookie spot, especially given he's already a good size.

Keen to get the opinion of some of our WA Demons about the above named Key Defender from West Perth http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/4904 Turns 21 early next year and was named in the WAFL team of the year at Full Back. 194cm & 91kg he seems to produce pretty good numbers (19 touches, 5 marks & 3 tackles a game), and from what I hear has good aerobic capacity. In the likely event that Dunn is traded and with Garland''s poor form this year we wont have much depth in the key defensive steaks if one of T/O Mc or Frost go down. Wonder if Keitel is the sort of guy worth looking at in the rookie draft to help bolster our stocks for this reason?

Worst case scenario and Hogan were to leave, if one of the picks we got back were pick 12 from West Coast, I'd be willing to on-trade that for Hanley.

You make a good point Wiseblood. While Ferreira's been impressive in the two finals he's played so far, he's spent most his year in the D-League or at Wonthaggi, so would be a big jump to expect to see him on an AFL list next year. If we are to draft a young small forward, i'd expect it to be Dan Allsop out of Dandenong Stingrays who came 2nd in the Morrish Medal. We have access to him through our indigenous/multi cultural zone so have first dibs. Casey have a few players that may get some attention come draft time. However i feel the only ones we'd be likely to consider are the skipper Hutchins (if Dunn goes to Brisbane) and McInerney as ruck support. Keilty, Smith and Munroe could be looked at by others.

I'm impressed JR. I was expecting your post to simply read 'OMG lol'.

Think Dunn & 26 for Picks 24 & 48 is more realistic.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-defender-lynden-dunn-on-brisbane-lions-radar/news-story/765ff2c55dcfa41d652747847d6d87cc Lions into Dunn. Would rather give them Garland.

From what i've seen of him, he seems to mainly shift between half back with short stints on a wing. Would love to see what he's capable of forward, but suspect he'll either be groomed for the Garland role or as a tall wingman. Or maybe both?

AFL Trade News First– ‏@AFLTrade Our sources suggest Carlton will not offer new contracts to Jason Tutt, Mark Whiley, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, and Clem Smith. #AFLTrades #CFC 13m AFL Trade News First ‏@AFLTrade We've been told West Coast's Tom Lamb wants a move back to Victoria. No great interest has been shown in the uncontracted forward. #AFLTrade A couple of players that take my interest. Tom Lamb has huge talent, but there's a question on his work rate. Possibly a move back home would do him good? Like Josh Watts who's been mentioned, Lamb is a real swin man. While DVR is someone i'd consider with a rookie pick. Hasn't come on for some reason, but highly rated in U18's with some real pace and a deadly left foot.

If Hogan goes we should look into James Stewart from GWS. Surely we have more to bargin with then Carlton & Collingwood. Although a Weideman, Stewart FF/CHF combo does make me vomit in my mouth a little.

Thoughts on the game. Lynden Dunn - BOG for me, following up his very strong Qualifying Final. I'd be more then happy keeping him on the list for key defensive depth next year. Colin Garland - Thought was ok. Looks as though he injured himself when he ran himself into trouble late in the 3rd term. Hopefully will be good for next week. His ability to play small is important. Matt Jones - Not a bad game. Not the day for outside mids, but worked hard. Ben Kennedy - Wonder if he's carrying something as he was very quiet. I reckon he'll be important for us on the quick deck of Etihad, so hope he's ok. Viv Michie - One of his quieter VFL games, but solid/ Alex Neal-Bullen - Thought he's caught some unfair criticism. His disposal wasn't great, but he won that many clearances for us and set up so many attacking plays, that his disposal could be forgiven. I agree that it will need to improve at Etihad however. Ben Newton - Looks reasonably solid across half back. Wonder if he'll get a run at another club next year? Clayton Oliver - I love this kid. Suffers a serious case of white line fever. I loved his little jab at Dunnell in the 2nd term after Salem's knock. Wouldn't of loved it if we lost a close one. But looking back it puts a smile on my face. Christian Salem - I know it was at VFL level and not AFL. But gee that first term reminded me of how good he could be. Real shame about the knock and that he'll miss next week given how valuable he'd be. But I'm looking forward to a big 2017 for Salem. Joel Smith - Realy happy for him to have a good game considering he missed the Qualifying Final. He looks a likely type and I still don't think we've found a set position for him yet, so watch out after another pre-season. Jake Spencer - Some people thought he was good, others thought he stunk. I just thought it was a typical Spencer game. Gave his all, competed, but did a few silly things also. For me I have reasonably low expectations for Jake as I see him as an AFL depth ruckman only. If another club offered him an opportunity I wouldn't hold it against him for exploring it and the club should be willing to let him go. We could always pick someone like McInnerney up late in the draft as his direct replacement. Jack Trengove - Thought he looked really good in the 1st term. Much quieter after that however. Loved his mark early also and seeing him stream through the middle of the ground to have a long shot at goal. Watching him on the fast track of Etihad will be interesting.... Sam Weideman - After a great Qualifying Final he found the going tough in conditions that didn't suit. I've got a feeling he could have a huge game in the Grand Final with a BOG 5 goal performance. Touch wood.... Mitch White - Started well, but after landing on his ankle seemd to struggle after that, but still got through. Hopefully he should be right as with no Salem, his kicking will be really important. To win by 7 goals with no Grimes and a few injury issues was a great effort after Williamstown won by about the same margin earlier in the year. Next week will be tough at a venue where many of the Bulldogs plays play and play well where out Melbourne players have a horrible record. But, if like the Qualifying Final, our midfield can control the inside ball, not allowing the Dogs to get it outside quick to utilise their superior speed, then the Scorpions should be to strong. Our VFL defence of Dunn, Garland, White, Hutchins and Michie since he's gone to half back have proved to be very strong and hard to score against, so a win in the midfield should see us with enough ball forward to get the job done. Spencer, Trengove, Grimes, Neal-Bullen, Oliver, Kennedy, Matt Jones v Minson, Stevens, Hrovat & Honeychurch is the key IMO. We should win out with weight of numbers, but it's no sure thing. Hopefully the Weed, Terlich, Tim Smith etc can get on the end of a few and put us clear. Go Scorps!

After Darcy Cameron (WAFL); McInerney is the state league ruckman with the most upside IMO.

I almost feel for Adelaide a bit at the moment. They remind me of us 89-91. A good team, but not quite good enough to win the ultimate. It's also hard to exactly put your finger on what they need to take the next step.

Concerned about tomorrow in the wet v Wily. Reckon if the game was today when it should have been seeing we finished top. In the sunshine and nice conditions, would have made us close to sure things. More 50/50 in the elements.

Don't know why an Essendon fan would suggest that? They get scre₩ed!