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Possibly. Either way i think we’re keen to move up further and we’d still do that to get pick 3. Drive a harder bargain and get one before pick 18 if its going to get north pick 1 and 6. Mckercher, duursma or watson gets shaken out that way and a chance for sanders for north at 6.
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The 2023 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
hillie replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Definitely gives some room for a big fish. Who are the free agents of 2024? Im thinking we are every chance not to have a first round pick after this trade period so free agency could be good for us. HP might mean we get one from adelaide if he requests and we relent next year. -
The 2023 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
hillie replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
something that’s been bugging me as I'm not 100% across the list rules and ability for teams to stockpile picks for players that are bid on. I note gc and dogs have 10 picks each to match academy and father son. I was of the impression you could only have as many picks as you have list spots available. Does this mean that after delistings, retirements and trades that both those teams have a few players that remain unsigned to fulfil this requirement and following the the draft they are then re signed? Does the gold coast still have the concession of a larger possible list size they were granted as part of the list concessions a few years ago? is there an opportunity to scour these lists and pry one out as a delisted free agent as if you are uncontracted after the draft you can delist yourself and sign where you like before list lodgements? I’m not sure who’d be available but if the list rules are as i think they are, it’d be worth investigating. -
Dogs have traded future 1st to get pick 4. hawks/north wont trade future first as it could be top 5 pick again. we have no qualms trading a future first. Will prob want something back though.
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Yeah think we need to snag a lycett or hayes as a delisted free agent. Surely ine of them is about to be cut with port picki g up 2 rucks in the trade period
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6 and 11 for 3 and 18 3 and future 1st for 1 and future second
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I think its a good sensible move. Need some depth and experience to replace what we have lost in jordan and harmes. Haven't really addressed our obvious key fwrd needs but im sure they tried. I think the grundy experiement really has cost us a year in terms of geting in the ears of a key fwrd, either last trade period or this one. Dont think we wont still try and move up the draft board
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To me this has a last minute ‘oh yeah we’ll take him feel’ like lachie hunter last year
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I think riv and mcvee are signifficantly positionally different from billings and so can still have both. Brayshaw jordan laurie and harmes minutes he would take if in the seniors. Not riv or mcvee. i am looking forward to seeing mcvee after another pre season. Work on one on one strength and get him chasing kozzie all pre season.
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I’d be interested in picking up Jack Billings. Saints are pushing him out so hardly going to cost much in draft capital. I think if we spread his 2 year contract over 3 years he’s a good james jordan replacement. Think we would like him to push into the midfield and he has ability. We need some depth in the mid with dunstan and jordan and likely harmes off our list.
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Im thinking outside the box here. Say we dont have a big fish on the hook and we suddenly have a fair bit of salary cap space - jordan, hibberd, harmes, grundy. Thats well over $1 mil spare could to benefit us, we trade grundy to swans and say we pay sydney his 600k salary for a year. And even 400k the year after but bringbit forward to next near they give us pick 11 sydney pays some of that money to jordan and it inflates his value per the comenatory pick we get. So it ends up being a first or end of first round? jordan wins the most out of this but also sydney get grundy and and extra mil in the cap for a year. Melb get a decent trade value and conpenstation pick for grundy and jordan.
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2018 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
hillie replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
I for one am stoked we no longer have an O’Brien on our list -
2018 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
hillie replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Pick 10 was O’Brien to carlton -
it's the opportunity cost I am talking about. we don't use pick 47 as there is no spot on the list for that pick if we take a Delisted free agent
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with crameri and hartung and any other delisted player for that matter, it is pick 47 that we would be giving up for them. Pick 47 would have landed any delisted player that's been mentioned and we have already thought better of it. Before you say we're sitting back to make a decision at a later date to consider the options, well this draft period if anything we went and got things done that the club wanted. all these fringe players coming up as delisted options, we have already said not to in effect giving up pick 47 for them. Pick 47 will be coming with us on draft night.