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Would be fantastic for Trenners to build up some genuine form, I still have high hopes that he can return to our 22. I still see him as an important (potential) addition to the senior side.

No, he was played as the loose player in defence, essentially in the 'quarterback' role.

Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you. I was at the game and even my Freo supporter mate was unsure that it was a goal. But having seen the replay several times on Foxtel when I arrived home, it was genuinely a goal. I agree it should have potentially gone to a review, especially given the close nature, but far too many people are acting like that game was lost by a goal that should've been disallowed. That isn't the case.

1) It was a clear goal and to say anything else is just farcical; 2) We had ample opportunities to win the game, we weren't good enough; 3) This thread is a total joke, security often liaise within all cheer squads at various times during games. If this somehow makes you feel uncomfortable, maybe you should look a sitting somewhere else. 4) I suggest if you are so traumatised and aggrieved by this apparent blatant assault upon spectators at the football, you seek to launch a civil claim against Securecorp. After all, it just sounds so intolerably unconscionable, what you had to endure.

Yeah, stop being so recalcitrant.

Online engagement is sorely lacking; we're constantly are playing 'catch up' (if you could call it that), with other clubs. Although clubs are somewhat limited and governed through the AFL's National Social Media Engagement Policy (which includes State and Territory leagues), some clubs, such as Adelaide, have an increasingly active online presence. However, it is also important to note that based on 2014 season information, the MFC had the second lowest amount of 'online' followers, across social media applications. We came in close to last, with only GWS below us. I'm not sure how accurate this still was, and the specificity of the report could potentially be dated. Looking at causation, it is important to note, that it's no surprise that we lack online engagement when our supporters, as a whole, seem to lack engagement with the club in an online capacity. What's problematic with this is that it's cyclical akin to the chicken or the egg debate. Other clubs who have a fantastic online presence are Hawthorn and Collingwood and it's not surprising that these two clubs, along with Adelaide and the Bombers, have the most active online supporter base (once again, I base this on the information available to me and is based on 2014 numbers). Clearly, it would appear that the MFC has a different prioritisation of strategic objectives, when compared to other clubs. But, given the rise of online e-fame and social media marketing techniques, we are clearly lacking. One last thing that I would note, which is entirely subjective (but I trust the judgement of those who have told me this, together with my own anecdotal evidence), is that many of the people hired to work in the social media administration team within the MFC, are just not adequately equipped or knowledgeable to successfully develop and grow an online supporter base. Having worked closely with several people who have been at opposing clubs, there general notion is that we are not recognising the benefits of having properly equipped Media and Communication graduates work in these roles, unlike Hawthorn who are seen to be somewhat of a trailblazer in this area. It's a complex area and I've probably digressed from the initial post, but it is increasingly frustrating and our results and presence, in my opinion, are totally inline with the investment and prioritisation that the MFC has placed into social media.

OUT: Harmes IN: Trengove

I know it's just the preseason, but, CFC look to be in for a loooooooong year.

That being turnovers, an ability to burn teammates and an increasingly obvious ability to only beat up on the bottom four teams?

I honestly implore your enthusiasm, but I fail to see where this supposed 'stick it up' us would come from. Who would make way for him and, conversely, where do you see him slotting in? Sure, he's killed it back in the magoos, but when he's been given his chance in the big league he's really failed to impress. If anything, I would have said last year was his year to stick it up us, it'll be so, so much harder from this year out; given the expected on-field improvement and natural progression of players, some of whom are well ahead of him.

Want to like this more than once.

Doesn't seem to have worked for Richmond, those supporters are perennial optimismists.

B: Jetta T.McD Frost HB: Vince O.McD Hibberd C: Hunt Lewis Tyson HF: Petracca Hogan Kent F: Garlett Pederson Watts Foll: Gawn Viney N.Jones Bench: Oliver Brayshaw Melksham Salem Unlucky ommissions: Bugg, Wagner, Stretch, Lumumba, Weideman. Notes: I really tossed up between Pederson and Weideman. If we were facing a lower team, such as GC or Carlton etc, I would be prepared to give Weid a shot at starting. But, given we've drawn St Kilda at Etihad, I've opted for Pederson's bigger body and although he's clearly divisive amongst supporters, I like his ability to give and take a hit. Bugg is another who I consider who is particularly unlucky. Personally, I love him and how he goes about his football, but with the inclusion of Hibberd and the Saints running with Riewoldt/Bruce and Memebrey down forward, I don't necessarily see an equitable match-up for him. I'd much rather have TMac to Roo, OMac on Membrey and Frost taking Bruce. If Lumumba was to get his body right, I reckon we could use his line-breaking ability on Etihad's fast pitch. However, given the season he's just endured, I doubt you could make an argument that he would be ahead of Vince or Hibberd. It's nice to finally see a side where there are players unlucky on missing on out and we're no longer trying to forcibly merely put a 'competitive' side on th ground, circa 2012-2014. Given the inclusions we've obtained over the off-season I can't see Harmes getting a gig. His accountability with the ball in hand is shocking. In previous seasons, he's a player we would've carried through, but I'd have Vince/Hibberd/Hunt/Wagner/Melksham/Salem and Bugg ahead of him. In saying that, the FD clearly rate him so in all likelihood, I do concede he would potentially be lining up somewhere for us. I just hope if that eventuates it isn't down forward because that experiment really failed IMO.

-Max Gawn to launch his own coffee line "I grind my own beans." -Harmes to lead the club for turnovers and the lowest % for possessions retained -Brayshaw to have a breakout season à la Jack Viney in 2016 -Oliver shall be publically acknowledged as the love child of Adam Cooney.

Don't necessarily buy into this whole 'attitude problem'. If had played for the Lions for that long, I'd have an attitude problem too. They're a basket case. It's no suprise that poor performing clubs seem to be synonomous with poor culture and players with 'attitude'. Look at us circa 2007-2014. The Blues of that period too. I'd be inclined to take a punt on him. Although a slightly different situation, Roos was able to get the best out of Mcglynn at Sydney and he was touted as having a poor cultural stigma. I see no reason why Rockliff wouldn't do the same for us. Major issue that I see is his contract, but if Brisbane were that desperate to offload him and retain a minimum salary cap, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to pay a portion of the contract, maybe even around 40%.

I rate him, he has all the attributes. The only knock on him for mine, apart from his kicking, is that he needs to understand his limitations. Far too often is he caught holding the ball when he tries to take on the tackler coming out of the D50. Don't get me wrong, his endeavour is there, but a man's got to know his limitations.

I think he's actually retired to pursue interest outside of football, if I understand correctly.

Played forward in some early games for Freo, back in 2013. He wasn't horrible. Decent sized body, 101kgs and 200+ cms. Although he doesn't have the ability to move well like Hale, Ryder etc.

I'm not totally against Lowden and I'm the first to admit, I haven't seen a lot of him. But seeing he's already effectively made no impact at two clubs, why would it be any difference if he came to us? Would he actually be an upgrade of Spencer? Could be an option, but was very underwhelming for Freo and being delisted by a poorly finishing side hardly speaks well. Especially given he only played two (?) games this year with Sandilands being injured.

That page belongs in the cesspit, absolutely heinous page.

That's what I think too, I'd assume it will be (in the case of a ruck/foward) a second/third string player at another club. I'll be most interested in who the outside mid will be, assuming we go for one. We haven't had much success with Michie or Newton, so we may see a younger player from one of the expansion clubs targeted.

Hello, Andrew!

This is what I was suggesting in my earlier posts but was pretty quickly shot down. Apparently, there's an inherent belief that if a player is over 30, they automatically add leadership values to a side. I definitely agree that in our position, a player around that age mark would be far more beneficial. In saying that, I think across the board, the AFL landscape is bereft of available players who fit this category in the coming trade season. Unless, one were to look at an established player in the state leagues, but we've been down that path before and all know how that turned out. James Magner, take a stand!