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Yes, though it is possible that Jesse is ambivalent and we have told Freo we want more than Freo is likely to be able to provide.

I don't think we have to look for mysterious ailments/attitudes. Surely the proposition that we want a long term commitment for stability knowing he might leave at the end of next year, and we can get more for him now than then, and possible plug immediate holes elsewhere in the team, is sufficient explanation of why all this is happening and driven by MFC.

I don't know if it was self-serving, but if Demonland has any effect it was Freo-serving. Fortunately Demonland has no effect except on the blood pressure of posters.

Of course. The result of trades and drafts is not known for years sometimes. But the point of threads like this (if there is one) is to allow us to rant and rave about what we think is best in the light of our current and limited knowledge. While I accept that it is possible that even a loss on paper may get us what we need to win a flag in 2019/20, personally I think it would be very bad to not get significantly more than May for Hogan.

It is so instructive to learn from our amateur anthropological archaeologists about the detailed workings of 'caveman' society. I just wish their conclusions were based on more than cartoon stereotypes from the early 20th century.

tea leaf readers can perhaps tell us what this means: Although Rosich confirmed that the Dockers met with Demon Jesse Hogan, he conceded that a there was still a lot to play out before any move would be made for the Melbourne forward. "Firstly he (Hogan) needs to make the call that he's interested in coming to Fremantle," Rosich said. "We're not close to having a conversation with Melbourne just yet."

you're forgiven then.

Keep Hogan, put him on the backline and then we can see if he's needed forward or if we need a May-type gorilla in the backline. I'm not sure if I am serious.

I'm disappointed that you have us finishing no better next year than this!

No lack of faith, he was just saying what would be a bad deal in his view. He didn't say they club would accept that and so he's heading towards the microwave with membership card in hand. I expect the blokes above would agree with L-36's comment.

As much as I'd like him to stay, I'm glad another club will have to fix some of his frustrating (to the supporter) on-field behaviour. Always looking for small mercies....

reporter not very inventive - didn't think of instead asking if he had decided to stay.

sure, but it does help to have a someone in the forward line.

True. And we still don't really know if Weid will be any good.

Come on, don't be so impatient.. The club has said he'll tell them this week which is reasonable if he hasn't 100% decided which is quite possible.

That is it - any deal has to be reasonable with each side feeling they have done near as well as they could have expected. Does anyone know Freo's history of being reasonable?

And even if it is 'super', all an early pick does is decrease the probability that the player will be a dud.

Don't see any point for us in draft picks unless we trade them for someone who can aid the team in the next 4 years. As I posted elsewhere, assuming Sam Weed will develop into a star based on one good outing in a final is 'courageous'.

At the risk of outdoing some of the pessimistic wet blankets around here: While Sam has shown some good signs in a match or two recently, it seems too early to be assuming he will go on to be a star and could simply replace Hogan (who while not a star yet, has a lot more runs on the board).

Is the AFL really going ahead with the (satanic) 6 6 6 start at centre bounces? I suspect a side that wants to play as per pre-2019 will try to ensure there is a secondary ball up more often - it already happens much of the time. And with the 18m square will we still have the 9m 'allowed to force through a rushed behind under pressure', or will it become 18m? More likely it will stay 9m and umpires will be guessing how far that is...

Why? Other than those opening goals, I thought WCE looked a better team for the rest of the match. They just couldn't quite make it count on the score board (until it counted)

Poor old Collingwood forever

Naive rule question: You not allowed to block a player trying to mark or spoil the ball. But you can when you are trying to make sure the ball goes through for a goal?

There is an old saying - 'A man's ambition must be small to inscribe his name on a toilet wall'. This seems to apply to any journalist whose ambition is to write about the AFL male or female.

This. I may be wrong but I don't recall us winning any Brownlows in the 50's/60's. We may have led the total votes count however.