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There's sadly very little hardness left. We'll get ragdolled more and more here on in. Good pickup re Hibberd etc.. very much the truth of the matter unfortunately :(

You're far from alone.

Im sure we don't. I suspected the KB game might give a window to where we are...and did. Our next outting will be a real litmus. We may well not be as bad as we seem.... or then again we might just be. RoCo's overview requires a hell of a lot of ducks to line up. My general assessment just ackowledges what we can generally and fairly ajudicate. Forward line: Undersized, undermanned,underwhelming. Looks totally disorganised. Midfield. Not gelling. Overuses the ball, not clever in clearances ( when we get them ) Max playing well... but seriously....to whose advantage ?? 🤷🤷 Midfield a shadow of our Granny winning ability. Backline. Struggling without Lever. May not at top of his game...looks injured and frustrated.... but tries. Coaching.....all over the shop ... Not looking sharp or effective.. Lost the plot ? Lost the players ?? Team cohesion.. Has been much better. Team effort... bog average of late. Injuries... mounting....and cruelling Talent in reserve.... unknown or not setting world on fire. Our pressure is way off the boil. Scoreboard... can't hit it... Prognosis... not looking that flash. Needs... a bloody miracle and a few rockets. Finals ... yeah...nahh Convince me otherwide.... am open minded ...to reason ;) Cheers Go Dees.... yep...need to get going !!

Their next game is against the Pies... ironic in a fashion. Will be quite telling.

And if you weren't..... what did she say ?

The nett effect of avoiding icebergs is emperically qualified as staying dry. This is about surgery. If you don't get it... i understand.

Those of us seeing the clear light of day , quietly balming in the calm of quiet reflection might respectfully disagree. We're stuffed: No effective forward line. A neutered midfield. An undermanned backline. Do i even need to mention a non-understood game plan. Some folk, and i casually include myself don't feel hysterically inclined. Quite the inverse. There's quiet , there's peace. There is no expectation. This comes when you realise ,for one reason or another 2 wheels have come adrlift. You're weaving all over the place and you notice the nuts on the 3rd wheel aren't that tight. The rubber on the last is worisome. Your maths whilst theoretically possible requite results of near powerball level. I really admire your positivity. I reckon you're mad.

For the moment id be happy to usurp Goodwin.... and hand to Choco in the interim. After that... .. some very interesting choices

Disagree.. watch May... when he spoils ..he launches through the pack ... fist out. If you know what you're about you can lift a knee without subverting your eyes. Im just very suspect.. Im not inclined to give many players any benefit of doubt...especially Filth.

Among other things ...possibly. Causes not necessarily mutually exclusive. It could be list and direction ( coaching )

Ive been pondering this... So i watched the replay about a dozen times. My thoughts.. Backs CAN mark.. ( May etc ) but Moore wasn't positioned or trying to mark. He was trying to spoil imo.. You dont normally "knee up" to spoil... to mark maybe/yes. So he spolied...and kneed..... hmmmm

Got to agree with Jaded Gawndy. Its only a vibe, an opinion but the likes of Gus'n'Gawny etc.. Brayshaw epitomised the soul of a die hard Demon. He left nothing out there...and so many do. He waa as much the jovial lad as the committed player. Who will EVER forget the lunging mark in that Granny ? He inspired those around him. That resonance is missing now.

Recommend anyone 🤔🤔🤔🤷

Lets be fair...McDonalds can't do a lot of things properly ( but their Cappos are ok ) That demented woman obviously should never have been allowed that milkshake if all she was to do with it was waste it... quelle horreur

Im not sure what anyone else thought ... but immediately after Trac was kneed....after he got up 'sucking' and hobbled off ....i said to the good wife... "gotta have done ribs"..." i also added derisively.." thanks Moore".. wife being of the filth variety arced up...."you cant blame him".. me... "of course i can...he laid his knee hard into him....wasnt 'accidental' " And thats why i thought it was ribs.. Didnt occur to me about Lung nor Spleen. Did it to others ?? 🤔 Again , you really wonder what the assessment entailed. How long before Scanners at every AFL game ? Hopefully soon. Hopefully Trac back in 25 after a full recovery

This highlights the error in its essence. The club is charged with overseeing the health of the players. The AFL is responsible essentially for providing as safe a working environment as can. The Player does not get to call the shots. So how did he ? Or did the club effectively abdicate responsibility til its hand was forced subsequently ? The assessment and decision making processes seem to leave much to be desired.

We play like like a bunch of Olafs

This needs to be said again and again.. The PLAYERS aren't the overiding problem. The list is either decried as "talented" .. capable etc etc. For mine overall its inflated and overated but there is genuine talent, ability and potential. The analogy to me is Chess. Those pieces only do the bidding of the person playing. The counterpart in football are the coaches. The problems wont be fixed unless some major changes are made as logically, don't make those changes and the ONLY outcome has to be pretty much more of same/similar. We need DIFFERENT.

Excellent post... considered and balanced. The question within the question in my view goes to motive . A vexed one without doubt but not all actions are simply "part of the technique" Gus says hello and thanks

Well you may well be right....but i'm guessing we'll get to have more games to judge upon ... ;) cupboard is bare.

Excuse me... duty of care.... due dilligence...quality of medical advice ?? But stay fat with the club... Did you really read what you wrote... You don't put anyone at risk. It's just footy Obviously the decision was wrong. Hindsight is wonderful yes... but why was he allowed back beggars serious scrutiny.

@speed demon Thanks for cutting through the spin. So many questions are raised by this but the important thing is the lad gets the best treatment and a full recovery. Footy concerns are a far off concern.

I'd counter that players don't come to clubs for the fans. They come for opportunity, for money etc etc. It's all down to the playing group and coaching. Whether you,I , they or anyone does or doesn't attend won't affect the outcomes. They get paid squillions... it's up to them.

Id rather we didnt.... we can judge it now. Not just me... a lot of ppl ...from.various vantage points are calling time. If we're in this same position next year....we're well and truly stuffed. Nothing will change if nothing changes.