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Really.. Someone posited that the evidence is Concrete. You get what that infers.... solid, irrefutable etc. I simply question that and you get your knickers in a knot. What a joke. All we did was beat North. Yep better than losing and some aspects looked better. It was an undermanned Roos. Let's not get too carried away. You don't get to cancel those that question things. Hardly venting. You're overplaying your hand. I have acknowledged positives. Not in this thread granted. Again... are we as bad as suggested ?.. Logic says we have to be exactly as bad as we are and where ladder puts us. If we win more games....that might change. Let's see where the season finishes ..yes ?

Nothing is ever quite what it seems with figures eh... Invoking the exquisite thinking mind of the late Dave Allen .. I present... So 30% are caused by drinking. Therefore 70% aren't.. So drink more and save lives !! Now obviously this is a fallacy. But it shows how much context is needed to provide ANY relevance. I know the O.P. sought to shine some sun on our predicament but I struggle to see much beyond the darkish clouds at present. The ladder suggests we aren't much chop. I agree. I reckon we're exactly as bad as we seem. But that's not 100% bad Let's see where at come seasons end.

Concrete Data ???

It doesn't. It's a joke, well it would be. Just once I love our club to amble up to AFL house , rap on the doors with a Please Explain. Then spread out all the inconsistencies. Esp as applies to us. Never happen of course but I honestly don't know why we wouldn't/shouldn't. What are they going to do ?

Hell .... wouldn't you love to see Milky play out 300 !! Look after him Dees .... 😉

And this is where folk like your good self find reasonable assessments so hard to swallow. As others here have already suggested. It's not about doing everything either right or wrong. It's about being able to affect successful results in a sustained manner . Simply having attained a flag ( and kudos to all ) does not guarantee nor qualify you ever more. What worked,now doesn't. Who was successful, now isn't. Some, I among those , question the ability of the current FD regime which by default has Goodwin as its major influence to bring home the bacon. It's not an overly complicated premise. Those that find continued dissatisfaction with the current trajectory and call for change will continue to do so unless we become successful. If that'sboring.... go find another thread. Why are you here boring yourself ?

Do what the .... you like.. Easier to ignore what you have to say if you can't even stick to the topic. Some of us can.

Dunno about one trick Jnr. His forte has always been a chess like footy brain. He reads the ball very very well and even as he attacked the ball in flight he'd be preparing to give off..or hold for option's. A big thinker who had sublime agility. He still thinks but his body won't play ball now.

And that will be informative

Stay focused. The thread discusses the ability and suitability of the current coach to that job. Good the club looked after Disco. Try not to conflate unnecessarily.

DG.. we have it wrong you see. We're not appreciative of the small offerings when they come along. We beat a lowly team... and we aren't celebrating sufficient enough to appease those too easily appeased. Wow... we snapped a LOSING streak... should be champagne and oysters all round !! It's far better to win. Had we not won that game we were truly rubbish. We're now slotted against another struggling outfit but I'm not chalking this up just yet as we know anything can and often does happen. Nothing would actually make me happier than we went on from strength to strength... well from whatever and wherever we are ...upwards. I really don't care who is the coach. I just want continued and persistent success for the Dees. Should the team perform miracles in 26 under SG.. fabulous. All I see currently is a lot of FeS2 Some are easily sated. I am genuinely interested/curious how rest of year plays out.

No.. not til EOS Knock yourself out...

Said this ages ago.. still do. He's never been 100% this year. He's got niggles that obviously haven't properly sorted themselves out. He was brought back in because the club panicked. This has served no one. Lever is a very reasoned, very professional player. It will be annoying him far more than it is any of us that he's not providing to his abilities. He knows it. He'll be frustrated . In this game you only have to be a step off your pace or slightly hamstruck and you'll be way off the mark. . If there are to be real learnings MFC... how about NOT playing guys 'til they're fit and brought up to speed properly ?? 🤔

4-6 more like it !!

The ROAR was fantastic... would have lifted the roof had there been one 😀

One way or another Selection will be informative.

Who wouldn't have enjoyed yesterday's win ? I did ..twice. Upon seeing final score and later watching replay as was working through game.

Much much better

I laugh... as you're probably right... Hopefully not !!

Agree The only caveat I will throw in is i have serious misgivings that Lever has really ever been 100% rtr this year. Agree , he's a bit of a concern presently.

Nice sentiment. Was quietly concerned for the lad. Hope they had a great day together.

Who'd da thunk !! 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🙄

or us 😉

Ghosty.. i won't bother at ALL with dland if Goodwin is still coaching . We'll be stuffed. I am curious how season plays out and draft/trade. After that sayonara til he's gone. Value my sanity and time more.

Surely we win this ?? Go us... maybe 3 to 4 goals ahead ? We can do that ?? Just a fair dinkum cohesive and meaningful effort Dees. More goals than points would be a bonus. Good to see Tmac suiting up 👍 p.s. don't underestimate Clarko 😉