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Saints next to useless outside of Etihad. They're going to lose the first one too

LH...i certainly acknowledge your view and appreciation of the vernacular but it might be carving cute to differentiate a pronoun ? The subject, object and content remain the same JAH is a psychopathical with Icarus issues.

Golly...Someone had the audacity to call a spade a spade !! why I never....lol A lot of the people having a go at Smith are the same incredulous hypocritical lot that deliver crud instead of balanced journalism. God forbid that anyone would call into question their voracity as well as clarity on the issue !! Why exactly should anyone require sympathy for Hird ?? I dont ( his kids yes ) JAH ? Not a bit

I for one am astounded ( as pleased as punch for the bloke ) that he's got to this point. All bets are off and every player for themselves in having a crack at a position. He deserves every opportunity and will get it now. Up to him, as its up to anyone. Speed...such a vexed parameter often...for mine right up there with 'effective disposal" on the stats sheet. All very murky and needs to be contextual in the light of play. Trenners has footy smarts..you cant teach that...you can try...but either its in a players DNA or not...it IS in Jacks. I look forward to seeing Melbourne evolve and if Trengove is part of it all well and good, if not.,.such is life but Im sure we wont be left guessing Go Dees

Can't wait to get to a session. I think Roos had done the semi miracle of turning the ship on the paddock (sts) but we still hadn't advanced to really good footy. Maybe not his fault per se, just hadn't got there yet. You can have a competitive car but it needs to be driven and setup right. Whether perennial optimism or elsewise we definitely seem to have the pit crew going gangbusters to get the lads not only firing but going the right way. Some of the drills describe ( to me ) fundamental footy acumen, things we've lacked in practice ( ie abilty to execute on the day ) and this has brought us undone before. With some imported stewardship and skilled grunt i think the newer evolved game plan ( or package of pudposes ) will finally deliver dividends. Can't wait for first game. Thanks to many for the reports/updates. Go Dees

Worth nothing as would/should be returned to AFL

Alchemy ... Turning base metals into Gold AlFLemy ... Turning anything of value into mould

Hi Patrick.. How's it going ?

Cue... That bloke on holiday !!

I wonder if some of these Nicks are Dland ideas as to....as opposed to what the players would shout at each other on the pitch ?

With a name like Angus..."Steaks"

Took it to be 'outlander' ...English. ( wherefore lil ol me heralds from ) Lest im not a Frankfurter lol

learn something here everyday...lol Ich bin ein sassenach

He probably want to paint a different picture

Probably more Demons in the Vatican than Saints

Where else ?

Wife and i do some fetes with Steiner schools. Sorry if my knowledge of them is disconcerting.

By far the most interesting thread here on DLand. Meanwhile back at the Gat.....

Born in what WAS Austria at the time but NOW Croatia. He however is deemed Austrian

Pickering......pffffffft The epitome of ethics !!!

Buck. Interesting analogy. I would suggest however Albert was more than aware of what was going on.....having instigated it !!

To me it's interesting how things are twisted, to suit. Danny boy's utterance " A great champion reduced to this " is not without merit. It's essentially truthful. Hird, a brilliant player in his day is now what he is. But Danny, please don't lose sight of the who and how of fault here....here's a hint JAH

I'll get the beers !!

There is the question of intent. Some suggest Hird did NOT intend to cheat.. I fail to understand how he did not.. From the outset he wished to explore the "grey areas" , find a loop hole, find something that wasnt outlawed. He was more than happy to flirt in areas of the unknown, indeed employ those who specialised in the "unknown" ...or not -to -be- discovered. He was looking for that edge, that advantage over other teams. In and of itself to find advantages is not verbotten but to do so on the other side of the fence is.. Golden Boy's black ops was not only over the fence but in a hut ( no one knows ) with shaded windows. How this is not cheating is anyone's guess. ASADA thought it was naughty. The AFL just didnt want to know.

We'll have no "poor old snookems" here ty very much lol