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On setious note this week am in Elmore...staying in Bendigo. Drive back late arvo was through a lot of smoke. Whoever starts fires are demented...doubly so when its in ignorance and against advice.

And still

i concurThis is out of the AFLs hands now ( thankfully ). They can make NO assurances. Will the AFL try to wiggle out needing to be the bad cop ? Absolutely. In the end though the AFL has no choice but to rubber stamp whatever is the outcome of Wadas appeal to CAS. I still think any dealings to do with any of the 34 are just flawed. Im ambivalent towards Milkshake as a player but emphatic in my concerns about importing a player who will inevitably get banned.

If Dimitri finds his was home via port. Good. If he becomes what some think he might ( but i doubt ) thats fine by me i really couldn't care less. Why ? He represents little substantiated value with us. Forget the 4 tag that was a bust. That he cant find his feet yet in our 22 is a double bust. That another team thinks they can get value....good for us. Hope he goes...win for him. Bigger win for us. All good ... Make it ha5pen footy gods

I think the Rookie draft is apt for many a proposed draftee.

Gossage would know all about Wafl-ing ...and dribbling !!!

funny thing is.... they probably are

no risk...you must be

just asking...nature of source? ?

injuries ?? hmmmm nature theerof as to prognosis ? The idea of going left filed always appeals to me. Ive always thought there are many very decent footballers but for the grace of god, and circumstance just dont end up in big time footy; and its not because they arent any good...just those sliding door thingies !!

hard to argue against that OD.That bloke that played for the Dees...Clarko... he goes ok apparently. Wonder how stupid ol Jeffrey feels at times

You're probably right however what we need to do is to be proactive. Most of these types aren't likely to budge but the world's a funny place and you might just strike one that for whatever reason might listen to an offer. All is not always what it seems from afar/outside.The better clubs persist with searching. Youd be amazed how many very pretty girls aren't asked out etc because everyone presumes the knockback. Point is ...you dont ask...and you're guaranteed a no by default.

Apparently Hogan and Club in preliminary discussions about a long term contract. Gist of which suggests..." you want to stay....money isn't an issue " Bodes well

You would think the club was all over this. I dont assume anything however as this is a situation nouveau . The AFL and all of it's constituents are carrying on as is this nasty WADA lot are just such an inconvenient imposition upon our little green pasture. They , from the outside at least, seem to think nothign of consequence will come of this and that the CAS hearing is just WADA being niggly What I do see is a whole lot of NOTHING. This entire subject is whitewashed everywhere. Where has anyone in the media ( with any real cred ) asked the awkward question(s) ? What are the contingencies ? What of any fall out etc etc? All you hear are crickets !! I have no issue with Melksham being a player of choice from Goody/Macca/Roos , none at all. Might not have been my selection but what of it. I do have serious doubts as to whether our illustrious club is actually taking some of this seriously enough though. I bet if you asked the club you wouldnt get a straight answer anyway. This of all things this trade draft is the most interesting aspect.. The WADA fall out

I honestly don't think any will serve 2y My thoughts have always suspected 18m...and possibly the small amount of time assigned to vol suspensions. Its still real with real time involved. Career ending for some...certainly a holiday for the many.

Food for thought for some; Are we all familiar with what a WADA ban entails. In short. ( i think WC10.10 is the reference ) ...You cant compete nor even associate with the club. Persona non grata effectively. The club could set up a futness regime....even fund it. Milkshake man would be all but a man alone. They all will be. Someone explain the sense ¥as well the expense) of bringing him on board . I'm interested.

trade period hasn't started. A lot is planned, even more catered to and yet still things can materialise seemingly out of nothing. Who's have thought Trenners was 9/10ths out the door let alone on the table. It happened from almost nothing. Opportunities will spring up with no real warning because the Trade period is about 33% intent..66% knock on/butterfly effectI wouldn't be printing up too many bits of plastic with JW on it just yet.

of that ...id agree... its the other

that is only your opinion rpfc. there is no precedent for knuckle rapping from CAS wont be 2years...im going with 18months with allowances for voluntary suspensions. Bans enforced from m judgement that puts them out for this preseason..next season and following preseason yeah.,.. theyre worth heaps !!

none are worth anything ...if banned

nothing if banned

As to his abilities/potential...as far as that goes Ill sit on the fence. Goody Macca ought to know the ins and outs of this bloke. It's to the logic of entertaini the getting of a soon-to-be banned member of the illustrious 34 that has my head shaking !! I really think the club's being somewhat naive.

Im actually surprised 4 years is at all necessary...to get him to change clubs. Youd have thought anyone who had enough of that environment would jump at any half way reasonable offer. 4 years seems excessive ...to me.

WADA have previously stated that all bets are off now re the AFL. Theres no Backdating. Only an allowance for the voluntary suspensions already undertaken. People get confused its not backdating..Thats what the efc brigade keep pumping into the media. Thats what EFC WANT !! EFC and any club with a "34" will need to prepare for pain Its coming. This comfort or otherwise that many at clubs are exhibiting regarding the toxicity of having any of the 34 is quite frankly amazing....amazingly stupid really. Theres still this ideal of ...we're AFL ...we'll be right etc etc. No Ones getting a Xmas present other than WADA/ASADA Any comparison to the NRL fiasco os foolhardy. A different set of circumstances.. Different level of transgressions and culpability , not to mention they co-operated and didnt hold things up every 5 mins.. WADA were NOT happy..let alone comfortable with all of this. The use of comfort will be by some one pushiing a player/club barrow. WADA were decidedly disappointed with how events ran but decided to put a line through it all and call it a day. They have done entirely the opposite with the case of the 34 as the hearing on Nov 16 will attest. Even then they will not have finished and will be coming after the scoundrels who implemented it all If anyone in AFL land thinks they can afford any comfort they are in la-la land !!

Ive been super impressed with how MFC has gone about things but this trade truly flies in the face of logic. It's not about Milkshake's value / ability. It's about his pending banning. I just don't get it.