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You've hit on something.. i think. " saw no joy " .. that's it. I think the closest word i can hijack is anxiety. There was no real spark out there... it seemed very highly strung on our part. BBOs phrase of the day recently.. "Joie de vivre" ..as it pertains to the game.. the fun, the buoyancy etc... wasnt there. Is it that the malaise that seemed to blanket our game for much of the night came from a worry of failing ( yet again ) and this usurped their natural confidence and enthusiasm...... for certain the latter was taking the evening off. Dunno.. just a bit of left field thinking....cheap seats and all

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Why do you think we couldn't execute..all very glib to use this buzz-word as the get out.. but reality is thats the result...not the reason. Irony much in your last paragraph.

You'd think so wouldnt you...It' al been about sucking up the pressure and then rebounding. Problem is we've been getting worn down. Quite frankly we looked tired and spent out there in the last qtr. I thought Max had had enough... Kicks weren't going where they ought to... the boundary line became our refuge ...AGAIN. Our skills wre quite frankly borderline attrocious as the game wore on ( emphasis on WORE ). Whatever craft we have up thefront end had long left for home.. Resilience is aboutovercoming the tiredness and the pressure and maintainng the status quo...or whatever abilities you need to bring to the party and sadly were were lacking and all over the shop...Thats WHY Carlton ran over us.. Everyone keeps banging on about if only ...if only..... Well..WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T.....because we couldn't. Whatever happened to the famed and lauded End Game Plan?? it died along with our ability to be effective.. We were the far more fatigued of the two teams at the end. I do agree with the notion our game has long been about resilience.... I suggest we go find it again...

It most certainly would...and be so from the get go....and get BETTER over years. I personally think too much is made of a singular golden entity. The one that single handedly wins all. Rarely happens and i dont think we want that anyways. When we do get "on" we invariably have multiple goal scorers. Not uncommon though for someone to have a day out ivf conditions ripe. You want, imo, a good cohesive unit. A goid forward team. Becomes very hard to match up on and defend. So whether it's him or as Red suggests a kinda similar type but a smokey... we need some who CAN... not someone who might one day.

Fair enough... Those Elephants are going nowhere....

What an interesting topic. If someone had asked me ...what one quality do you think Melbourne needs more of ?.. I would have answered RESILIENCE. We choked. Anyone want to argue otherwise ?? When you do such you WILL attract such commentary that questions fragility. That's just going to happen. Ive no particular time for the little annoying dweeb... but I do entertain we got done over. And that's between the ears...as we struggle to get between the posts. What is...IS. The club needs to deal with this. It's real. We went out in straight sets.....twice... nit because we were thoroughly beaten..... but because we couldnt win....even though we essentially had. I dont have a problem with what any in the media say... let them. We stuffed up, let's do better. Let's be more resilient.

Must be Banana Daiquiri time.....🍹

Thats just it $1M.. not massively over all in all... imo.. for what you should expect. You would want 50g a season ?

How ?? Blindingly obvious surely. Calling spades spades.... Gotta be done

I seriously don't understand why they don't. But it's very Melbourne to not do so... and it gives me the [censored]

The word you look for is "corrupt"

Good luck Jimmy

Actually... in context ... new cba and all that... $1M a year ..hmmmmmmmm

Have absolutely no qualms about that. Opportunities gone begging. He did have mates.... But... gee whizz

I know we'll possibly not agree on how the starting selection may have been... but Max was incredulously poorly managed. Thats on you know who.....

Early hols ??

Probably takes the combined output of 50 journos to get an ounce of sense though...

Yep... good for geese.......

Id give Maxxy a little slack Jaded...he was mercilessly held, scragged, chopped all game for sfa recognition by the maggots. It was deplorable.

In one respect a 'problem" with the forward line stocks is even with the likes of Milky (retained ) Roo and Petty ( if he is indeed to live forward permanently ) is we're ...imho...still one decent sized KPF short. Whereby we had the likes of Big Benny and Tommy alas I would think those halcyon days are passed. Had we a more mature and experienced Forward I doubt that Roo would have been chucked in the deep end as he was. Other than Fritta we dont have too many who live and breathe forward craft. Smith isnt too bad.. but not what I think we're looking at as being the KEY forward. Petty might get there...but he's still learning imo. It is someone like Hogan (oh the irony ) that we need... Not the Lynchs or the like...just a good solid meat and 3 veg realiable PROPER forward.. Will only likely need for 3-4 years. We dont need a silver bullet...just add to the silver already on hand

Good journalism should lead the way. It shouldn't be dictated to. It shouldn't look like a cheap one size fits all suit. That they are reactive shows they should all give away the quill.

Well... it's a start. Possibly a poor analogy but someone with addiction first has to admit it, own it and then can move forward and upward from that base. All im hearing is blah blah blah bla blahhhhh. At least in "trotting" it out he's verbalising to a public audience. That would be a catalyst for change. Haven't heard him say... "Im the Coach of Melbourne and its my responsibility to oversee the change needed so we dont repeat these unsatisfactory and disappointing results , squandering our talent and opportunity " I dont hear him say ANYTHING near it.

Even worse...of a fashion. We had the game effectively won. Not sure tbh how...as some seemed worse for wear and just hanging on but in the context of that game and with little time left we should have retained the outcome. Our much vaulted End of Game Shut-down was nowhere to be seen. Where was the discipline...where were all the learnings. Why weren't 2 extra behind the ball to completely shut it down..where were the runners ?? Like deer in the headlights.. we got whacked. That's where the vitriol of the media stems from.

Lamentably....yes.. All the locusts swarm. Tbh... not without some merit. We are our own worst enemy. We often dont simply get beaten.. WE lose. Emphasis on the WE. I.e.. It was up to us...and we've stuffed up...and not just once. There's a perceivable trend. So the answer to all that kicking...is to get up and do something about it. I can only suggest something somewhat different....lest we end up right back on the floor.. The word criticism by definition comes from critique. We of course deserve to be critiqued. Now it may well be some have agendas and/or narratives to push but the equally simple ( as such ) solution so as to avoid the kicking. Dont lose the games you've won. It might just help.....