beelzebub

out of the light and back into darkness goes us

and I will. if he is half as clever as he's made out to be ...and has some real cohunas his first act in the job would have been to advise the same said board to hold their fire for a little while. After all he has far more experience in the running of footy than his board members. He signed off on it...he wears it

You had me at Useless Demons !!

Where would you go

This Monday ??? lol

Suspect he'll say all all the right things and find his way to Dingley

Hard to mount an argument presently

Good

My immediate concern regarding Pert..was wtf re-sign Goody so unecessarily quickly. Now im nervous about anything he does.

We'll only know the club is having a red hot dip at fixing this shizen shambles AFTER its had this 'said' go and we see one effect...i.e...heads on stix might be a start...but in seriousness. ..only when we see new fabric. Until then same same. The club owes us nothing...and guess what..we owe IT nothing.

lets hope so.

we've got last weeks FD !!

From Titus O'Reily.... puts it into words far more elegantly and poignantly than I. I hope he doesn't mind... He's a Comedian at Heart but by god you can feel he's fed up like the rest of us ( the rest of this can be read at https://www.titusoreily.com/afl/the-monday-knee-jerk-reaction-afl-round-twenty-two ) Melbourne (42) v Sydney (95) It was an intriguing round of football. Not this game, this was a game that simply highlighted two very different club cultures and made me wish I’d never been born. With both sides having nothing to play for except pride, the Swans took it as an opportunity to devote themselves to their craft and improve their skills and abilities by working hard all night. After all, good habits start straight away. The Dees players instead took the opportunity to fashion a white flag so big it could be seen from space and then waving it furiously for all to see. Considering Sydney have lost six in a row and were on Melbourne’s home ground, this belting was embarrassing to watch, and I thought I was beyond feeling embarrassed about Melbourne. Swans fans are hurting after this season, but they can at least see some effort from the young players. Melbourne keeps talking about how they are still a few years away. That’s more like decades based on this performance. The constant refrain that now is not the time is just an excuse. The Demons are the person at work who is always about to do something; then you realised they’ve been in their role forever and never achieved a single thing. The players need to start worrying about now, not some mythical land in the future were everything just miraculously turns around, because based on this performance, that won’t be 2020.

we effectively will

I'm not so much concerned that a player said anything to another...as such. It's just symptomatic imho of a much larger problem. Total disarray out there. A dog's breakfast as suggested by another is spot on. Playing like headless chooks might be another way. There's hardly a rhyme or reason in the way we go about it. Sometimes frustration gets the better of you and I think this is predominantly what this was. Frustration. The team is coming apart at the seams. I think it was Riewoldt ( n) who suggested they're in survival mode. It looks it Im more concerned that it's got to this...team mates getting all niggly because it all isnt going well. I don't think it was particularly Oliver's place... but then there's no captains out there, none worth a bootlace anyway. Cracks appearing

Me thinks it was over quite some time ago

Question: Do you buy a membership next year ? Allegory: Do you keep hitting you head against a brick wall ? Funny some folk are just sick of the headaches...others seek more panadol or other medicinal remedy. I don't see anyone suggesting they will NOT follow Melbourne. It's up to an individual to choose their life's pleasures.

Possibly a shame that those accusing others of wearisome chucking of armaments cants actually understand what is being mentioned. It's not possible nor desirable often...in a time of hairtrigger litigation ...to call a spade a spade. Again...anyone thinking we are a well oiled machine ought check their barometer of delusion. We had many of the ingredients to provide for success. And yet where are we ? A miserable pathetic. ..yes PATHETIC 17th..going nowhere fast. Someone took a decent beef ragu and turned it into tinned spag bog. Mahoney may well have done some half decent things along the way but he's at the helm if a mess. That's upon him as much as any other. Those that shout...he was PJs choice. ..well..quite frankly imho PJ though an excellent Administrator really knew fa about footy. In that regard a choice of Mahoney is flawed. Just having bits of paper is no guarantee of anything. Ive metvand had to deal with Engineers and Architects ( all holding paper ( degrees)) that were hopeless...that needed errors and problems of their making sorted. We have ppl in the club who have run amok long enough. I dont think it prudent of bloke A to run an eye over work done by ...bloke A. It's stupid 101. Bloke A will never give the required impartial inspection . It just isnt part of the human condition to do so. So maybe folk should be less concerned about so called grenades and more curious about what breaches in the castle give light to. Without doubt we dont leak like a sieve as once we did. The football world..indeed business world ...are places where words spread. There are posters here who in their non Dland time move among circles where 'things' are discussed. Invariably at the top of any list of sources i personally rely upon to be manifestly askew will be the topical one..ie. in the case of the MFC...they are down the list of actual reliability to tell you what is really happening at the MFC. Same goes for much really doesn't it. People can believe what they like.

No concept of someone covering their tracks...or just no concept ? Either way your stance hardly surprises.

Barassi left..your point ?

Strangely well summed up. We actually dont know that the club has no idea. Its a very good point. There are people/companies that do external reviews. In fact there's a whole big world out there. You're very defensive of Mahoney. I only care about the jumper..the vlub..the personnel ...whatever. Im very defensive against mediocrity and bull excrement. Only a fool has himself as legal counsel. Only a foolish club isnt prepared to allow an outside unbiased review. We're floundering big time...drowning not waving.

Gold

What im saying is very simple..so keep up You dont review yourself. Do we need an external reviewer...like duh !!

Thanks. . Those stats AREN'T telling OUR story ! Ours is quite different !!

Or covering his own [censored] quick smart. How any review of a dept by themselves can be taken seriously beggars belief.