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well, we all knew he had talent but he still needs to stay injury-free and fit

ok, thanks bing seems i equated not guilty with no fault (ie guilty but no penalty) i.e. the "unconscious" defense and agreed the no significant fault is for a 12mth reduction, and is still difficult to claim, though cronulla were lucky

at the moment though, neither the club nor its (current) employees are on trial only dank is (apart from the players) if the players/dank are found guilty we don't know whether asada will issue infraction notices against any club officials has this been discussed publicly?

you wouldn't buy any merch just because of a little logo.....wow....a bit precious?

but i can't help it howe has not trained with the main group yet since he did hamstring becoming a very long hamstring for a young fella doesn't look he'll be right for round 1 that's what i'm reading into it

no, not the club......supporters (well some) don't you think he looks like a derek?

no, because question time does not really allow for discussion there are better ways

yeah, derek the demon

i'd hardly describe the agm as a discussion forum, billy

maybe the politicians bipartisanly could agree to setup a commission of sorts including prominent australians (but not current pollies) to spend the next 12 months developing a 25 year blueprint for the future and a roadmap to get there. That commission would then continue (for the 25 years) to monitor and advise and act as a sort of ombudsman separate from the politican side. ?

my understanding is that dank and robinson were not contractors but employees. therefore they represent the club calling them contractors just seems a tactic by the club to distance itself and deflect blame

choke, i don't honestly think there is a lack of political will and in the main not a lack of money (the wastage has been horrendous) it seems to me (ignorant maybe) a problem of coming up with solutions that everyone can agree with a comprehensive solution needs to include both the short requirements and the long term objectives (and everything in-between) and importantly, implementing the short term in a way that leads towards the longer term objective i think they fail to address the longer term because they can't get all parties to agree what the longer term outcome should be hence the shorter term solutions continually just become band-aids hope this makes some sense, not very well articulated i know i guess i'm saying what is needed is a comprehensive (but realistic) blueprint with all parties buying in. obviously easier to say than do

don't forget ldvc that people who go to the doctor for an injection have not signed onto and been educated by the wada code i would expect (given wada's strict rules) that they would ask the person injecting exactly what they were being injected with each time before accepting i agree they probably wouldn't go as far as to say show me the label on the bottle anyway, surely you must find it strange that all 34 didn't do more checking esp given the wada education they were given and then turn around and claim they were not sure now what they were injected with. not one! could they have been lied to and deceived? possibly. did they demonstrate at least the minimum amount of responsibility to do due personal diligence? unlikely

not only that mandee, but no player manager inquired no member of the FD inquired that's a heap more people than just the 34 players

bing, re the "unconscious" bit i think you are confusing determination of guilt with sentence discounting the "unconscious" defense is relevant in getting a not guilty finding as regards getting a 12 month discount after being guilty the no significant fault claim doesn't need a state of unconsciousness to succeed

hope they have filled in all the rabbit holes on eureka stadium. we don't want anymore foot injuries

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choke, your ideas for increasing revenue (and more equitably) have definite merit but i don't think the problem of providing good services and opportunities to all remote indigenous settlements is just a matter of spending money i don't know the solution, but i can see so many dead ends for the current efforts and directions, no matter how well intentioned i do think that any solution will inevitably mean change and pain for some there needs to be a genuine multi-partisan approach and some acceptance that that a solution involves compromise (probably big compromise) sorry, that's not much of an answer

well we all agree that abbott is fair game and i'll be happy to see the end of him (sooner the better) but i am uncomfortable with the level of demonisation of political leaders by the conventional media we saw it with rudd and gillard and now abbott. no doubt it will continue with shorten if he ascends i'm not saying they haven't brought some of it on themselves but this excessive manipulation by the media is paralysing and polarising any chance of reform is hijacked and trivialised into isolated sound-bites and sensationalised headlines i think the media feeds on turmoil and too often even prepared to create it meanwhile the lucky country goes down the gurgler

lol - campbell newman. must be something in the water up in qld producing charismatic messiahs - newman, rudd, bjelke joe (that's apolitical, one from each party)

well semantics and language aside... supporting and providing good essential services to many remote communities that are not self sustaining is just not working, cost effective or realistic despite efforts by all sides of politics for decades at the moment, for many remote communities it is a lose/lose reality so are we mature enough to discuss the real problems and possible solutions or do we just waste time arguing about the choice of words because we don't like abbot, and what side of the ideology wall we worship at?

not much, just a little

you might have to settle for the dons in the ammos, od if you squint hard you can imagine the black is navy

wonder if we should cancel the ashes tour and go to bangladesh instead?