daisycutter

Sounds more like a line from The Castle

Absolutely. US Collegiate sport is the same. Full stands and big TV audience Haven't studied any figures but with baseball teams playing so many games I'm surprised they seem to get good game attendances. At least they appear to. And. many of these games are midweek too (have to be, to fit in 160 games per team per season) It's always surprised me why Sydney-siders seem to be so passionate over League but don't attend games

next time Sloonie pop down to Aldi at $4.99 B)

LOL....are you suggesting the club should hire a 'profiler'?.......eat your heart out FBI

Is it too late to get a new wife OD? .....just kidding

Well I think on reflection it was just the "least offensive" choice of a "difficult list" in a "special set of circumstances" It wasn't just the media, Bailey was well aware there was an extraordinary board meeting discussing his future. I think he would have wanted to know the outcome as soon as possible. May not have been ideal but IMO was the best of a bad lot. Your mileage obviously differs. Now Jnr....... that was a totally different situation

Yeah, been to a couple of Viking's games. Very stop start and the rules take a lot of getting used to especially the rules at the end of the game like basketball where they reall stretch it out. Overall I didn't mind it but I'd place it after union/league but before the beautiful game

The NFL is a unique situation There is typically one club per state. There are only 16 matches with 8 home games That means a state like Minnesota (Vikings) gets a total of 8 games a season at the Metrodome (60,000 people) for a state the size of Victoria The tickets naturally are all sold out before the season starts I think you have to buy a whole season and they are not cheap Typically social clubs at corporations buy in bulk then employees bid for their turn Now baseball is a whole different ballpark (pun intended) with their approx 160 games per season

black is a shade of grey, white is a shade of grey clear as mud..........

At first I thought the phone call was a bit of a poor way to handle it, but looking over the situation at the time I have to agree with you The board meeting (and phone call) was late on a Sunday night The press and Dean Bailey was aware of the meeting and possible outcome Club had four choices to inform Bailey [1] Face to face at his place. Manners would dictate a call first to get permission to come over. His family home on a Sunday evening would not be suitable.The call to check first would be a dead give away. Plus there was the media cicus. Scratch that idea. [2] Face to Face on MFC territory. Again it was Sunday evening. It would require a phone call first. Again a dead give away. It would place Bailey at a greater inconvenience to be summoned. Scratch that idea. [3] Wait till Bailey was at work next time. Press speculation/attention would be high. MFC would have to make some statement re the meeting even it was a stalling statement. Bailey would have to wait without any info then be sacked maybe onthe Monday (depending on his movements). Risky strategy. Scratch this idea [4] Inform him as quick as possible via telehone by the most appropriate person before it became a media circus I can see why option [4] was the best all-round option for all concerned

Ta, so look like you get HiDef + PVR function STB for $10 If you have a BIG panel then the HiDef makes a lot of sense

Had already tried that. It is incomplete for Rookies I think the AFL site has it but I haven't had time for a good search yet

From a Foxtel ignoramus I take it this $50 deal is for Std Definition only and no PVR STB? How much extra for these two features? (or are they one feature?) Also would it be the same charges for satellite?

as good a guess as any i think in terms of 1 x low-teens plus 1 x mid-teens certainly nowhere near 7+8

Paul Ridley maybe?

have added 1993/94/95 Trades to original list above

He's probably in the "?' in the "1995 AFL TRADE ?" row Will see if I can fill in the TRADE gaps and update list

thanks for explanation i was obviously asleep at the wheel at that time

OK I'll bite what does KOTD mean? google didn't really help ("Kiss of the Dragon"!)

and who cares about richmond?

I seem to remember some change like that but I don't think it applies this year

yes, fingers crossed and all that

National Drafts, Trades, PreSeason Drafts, MidSeason Drafts since the beginning Lots of answers to all those Trivia questions (highest pick, most picks in a draft, highest 1st round pick.....etc) 1986 VFL [3] StephenFebey [16] MatthewFebey [29] Craig Walker [55] Darren Jarman 1987 VFL [11] Tim McNeil [24] Mark Ducker [37] Andrew Obst [50] Stephen Tingay [63] Jay Viney 1988 VFL [13] Darren Bennett [27] Rod Keogh [41] Michael Hobbes [69] Matthew Mahoney [83] Brian Stynes [97] Tom Grehan [111] Tom Kavanagh [PSD 13] Dannie Seow [PSD 27] James Tomkins [PSD 41] Michael Atkins [PSD 55] Matthew Febey 1989 VFL [25] Paul Rouvray [57] Tim Moreland [71] Glenn Wilkins [PSD 17] Stuart Cameron[PSD 31] Scott Williamson [PSD 45] Robert Hickmott [PSD 53] Melbourne [MIDYR 12] Jamie Duursma [MIDYR 25] Peter Van Der Meer [MIDYR 35] Paul Hogarth [MIDYR 42] David Morrison 1990 AFL TRADE Paul Bryce Phil Egan Rod Owen [6] Allen Jakovich [19] Gary Merritt [63] Fabian Francis [75] Robert Panozza [77] Niall Buckley [PSD 17] Nick Sebo [PSD 23] Leigh Capsalis [PSD 33] Kevin Dyson [PSD 48] George Gorozidis 1991 AFL TRADE Michael Pickering [3] Darren Kowal [5] Jason Norrish [10] Andrew Lamprill [19] Phil Gilbert [23] Mathew McKay [31] Hayden Kilmartin [32] Micah Berry [36] Jason Dullard [40] Nick White [PSD 11] Wayne Henwood [PSD25] Andy Goodwin [PSD 39] Ben Judd [PSD 50] Cristian O'Brien 1992 AFL TRADE Adrian Campbell [9] Martin Pike [24] Brett Jeffrey [39] Matthew Kluzek [53] Mathew Moon North [54] Daniel Clark [69] Scott Simister [84] Damien Gaspar [99] Jeff Hilton [122] Damon Munt [FS] Glenn Molloy Bradley Campbell [MIDYR 2] Greg Doyle [PSD 9] Glenn Freeborn [PSD 25] Ivan Bartul [PSD 39] Mathew McKay [PSD 53] Paul Prymke 1993 AFL TRADE Paul Ridley [10] Trent Ormond-Allen [27] Brad Hall [42] Michael Prentice [MIDYR 5] Brett Evans [PSD 11] Dean Irving [PSD 26] John Carroll 1994 AFL TRADE Jeff Farmer Marcus Seecamp [16] Adam Yze [34] Michael Polley [51] Clay Sampson [68] Luke Norman [76] Todd McHardy [PSD 14} Shaun Smith [PSD 28] Martin Heppell 1995 AFL TRADE David Grant Anthony Ingerson Craig Turley [11] Donald Cockatoo-Collins [55] Mark Bradly [60] Darren O'Brien [72] Ashley Gehling [PSD 2] Craig Nettelbeck [PSD 10] Andrew Leoncelli 1996 AFL TRADE Nick Pesch [11] Brent Grgic [22] Alistair Nicholson [30] Hayden Lamaro [45] Clayton Gardiner [59] Anthony McDonald [68] Russell Robertson [75] Mark Winterton [82] Duncan O'Toole [83] Ashley Gehling [PSD 3] Leigh Newton [PSD 13] Robert Pyman [PSD 18] Shane Woewodin 1997 AFL TRADE ? [1] Travis Johnstone [22] Troy Longmuir [39] Matthew Blake [50] Luke Ottens [66] Nathan Brown [77] Guy Rigoni [PSD 1] Jamie Shanahan 1998 AFL TRADE Scott Chisholm Nick Carter [13] Chris Lamb [60] Luke Speers [72] Luke Taylor [PSD 9] Troy Simmonds 1999 AFL TRADE Stephen Powell [19] Brad Green [20] Paul Wheatley [42] Michael Clark [50] Matthew Whelan [63] Shannon O'Brien [64] Cameron Bruce [PSD 3] James Cook [PSD 11] Steven Pitt [PSD 14] Simon Godfrey 2000 AFL TRADE Nil [16] Scott Thompson [62] Daniel Breese [73] Ross Funcke [80] Mitchell Craig [PSD 10] Nick Gill 2001 AFL TRADE Clint Bizzell Craig Ellis Peter Vardy [9] Luke Molan [25] Steven Armstrong [26] Aaron Rogers [55] Brad Miller [ 2002 AFL TRADE Chris Heffernan [14] Daniel Bell [15] Nicholas Smith [26] Jared Rivers [39] Gary Moorcroft [54] Cameron Hunter [66] Ryan Ferguson [PSD 5] Guy Rigoni [ROOK 11] Adam Fisher [R 27] Dale Carson [R 43] Ezra Poyas [R 56] Nathan Carroll [R 65] Michael Clark 2003 AFL TRADE Ben Holland [3] Colin Sylvia [5] Brock McLean [36] Chris Johnson [PSD 3] Phillip Read 2004 AFL TRADE Paul Johnson Brent Moloney [13] Matthew Bate [15] Lynden Dunn [43] Michael Newton 2005 AFL TRADE Byron Pickett [12] Nathan Jones [53] Simon Buckley [60] Clint Bartram [68] Heath Neville [R 9] Jace Bode [R 25] Daniel Hughes [R 39] Shane Neaves 2006 AFL TRADE Nil [12] James Frawley [30] Ricky Petterd [46] Colin Garland [62] Isaac Weetra [R 12] Daniel Hayes 2007 AFL TRADE John Meesen [4] Cale Morton [14] Jack Grimes [21] Addam Maric [53] Kyle Cheney [PSD 3] Stefan Martin [R 3] Trent Zomer [R 19] Austin Wonaeamirri 2008 AFL TRADE Nil [1] Jack Watts [17] Sam Blease [35] Jamie Bennell [51] Neville Jetta [64] Rohan Bail [PSD 1] Liam Jurrah [R 1] Jordie McKenzie [R 17] Rhys Healey [R 33] Daniel Hughes 2009 AFL TRADE Nil [1] Tom Scully [2] Jack Trengove [11] Jordan Gysberts [18] Luke Tapscott [34] Max Gawn [50] Jack Fitzpatrick [PSD 1] Joel Macdonald [R 2010 AFL TRADE Nil [12] Lucas Cook [33] Jeremy Howe [50] Troy Davis [53] Tom McDonald [R 14] Daniel Nicholson [R 31] Michael Evans [R 48] Kelvin Lawrence [R 68] Cameron Johnston [R 75] Robert Campbell Can't find all the Rookie Drafts - anyone know where?

Well I did some research There has been 4 VFL drafts1986 to 1989. After that it was all AFL national drafts We have never had as low a 1st pick as 36 (in fact not even close), so in theory this will be our worst ND ever. I will post later with all our draft picks since 1986 (some very interesting names) and also trades

For all you stats freaks When was the last time our first pick in the ND was as low(high?) as 36?