Whispering_Jack

Or alternatively you could support one of Demonland's own and listen to the game on Casey Radio, 3SER (97.7fm). For those not in the south-east of Melbourne, there is streaming online at www.3ser.org.au

Streaming has noticeably improved in recent weeks, so buffering problems should not be encountered in the manner that used to occur. We broadcast from the social club, so it usually gives the coverage an interesting 'edge' as well.

Enjoy the game!

Didn't know both games were being broadcast on radio or that one of our own was involved with 3SER. My only problem with the station was that last time I tried to tune in on my el cheapo Dick Smith walkperson, all I could hear was this bloke talking in Greek. Do you have interpreters or was I on the wrong waveband?

THE PERFECT FLOWER ARRANGMENT

I'm not so sure about the title to this article but it brings back some great memories of the day we beat the Bulldogs to make the finals for the first time in over two decades. Even after we'd won the game, we were no certainties and had to rely on hawthorn beating Geelong. I remember listening to that game on the radio in the crowd and throwing my young son over the fence when the siren went and we'd made it at last. Never did find out what happened to that boy!

The cover of the Herald Sun Weekend Sport section and a story inside celebrate the retiremetn of Brisbane's Chris Johnson as "The Last Lion".

This is not to denigrate Chris Johnson's career in football but several hours after he walks off the Gabba tonight, there will be one remaining former Lion still going around at the MCG - Daniel Ward whose career started off at Fitzroy when he was on their supplementary list in the Lions' last year. That makes Wardy the real last Lion.

Irrespective of whether he soldiers on in 2008, he deserves the title - his efforts for the club have been lionhearted and he has made the most of his abilities in his decade in football at the highest level.

Carlton is set to land the first big fish in off season player movements - BIG DEFECTION TO CARLTON SET TO ROCK THE AFL

Good on u jcash i have 5 kids enjoy and they all are dees keep making more and we can get that membership from 28000 to whatever if u keep going.

Anyway congratulations anyway.

Congratulations JCash (love your initials) and let's hope that we have a double celebration one month after her fist birthday and many, many mor to come.

The Zebras aren't on TV today but the next best thing after actually turning up to support the boys in person is to listen to the game on 3XX Radio 1611.

The station is also looking out for callers -

"3XX 1611 AM - VFL FOOTY CALLERS WANTED

We have vacancies in the Saturday Call Team for the remainder of this season, and are looking to further develop our call teams for 2008.

If you have an interest and call a game of footy for radio, AND are available on SATURDAYS, please let us know by calling 9532 1611 or email to [email protected]"

I'd apply for the gig myself but I don't have a clue about VFL opposition players. However, if 3XX wants some real educated vox pop comments from the punters in the crowd then we're usually situated on or next to the gravel just under the pisspots (I mean that very respectfully BTW) on the social club stand balcony.

The folks at 3XX do a good job and they even gave Demonland an on air plug last time they covered us so listen out and please report here as the game unfolds.

Buckley, Wheatley and Garland off to Sandy for tomorrow!

MELBOURNE v CARLTON

Sunday, 5.10pm AEST, the MCG

MELBOURNE

B: Nathan Carroll, Ryan Ferguson, Nathan Brown

HB: Clint Bizzell, Brad Miller, Cameron Bruce

C: Brad Green, James McDonald, Travis Johnstone

HF: Byron Pickett, Russell Robertson, Lynden Dunn

F: Matthew Bate, Michael Newton, Jace Bode

FOLL: Jeff White, Brock McLean, Nathan Jones

I/C: Chris Johnson, Daniel Ward, Paul Johnson, Mark Jamar

EMG: Simon Buckley, Paul Wheatley, Colin Garland

In: J.McDonald, M.Bate, C.Bizzell,

Out: D.Neitz (knee), C.Sylvia (hip), S.Buckley

CARLTON

B: Michael Jamison, Setanta O’hAilpin, Paul Bower

HB: Heath Scotland, Mark Austin, Andrew Walker

C: Marc Murphy, Adam Bentick, Ryan Jackson

HF: Kade Simpson, Josh Kennedy, Jarrad Waite

F: Andrew Carrazzo, Lance Whitnall, Shaun Hampson

FOLL: Cain Ackland, Ryan Houlihan, Bryce Gibbs

I/C: Jordan Bannister, Eddie Betts, Shaun Grigg, Jordan Russell

EMG: Luke Blackwell, Jason Saddington, Simon Wiggins

In: Mark Austin, Ryan Houlihan

Out: Brad Fisher (knee), Jason Saddington – omitted

New: Mark Austin – Jeparit-Rainbow/Glenelg

Bailey comes direct from Port Adelaide which probably made more changes to its list at the end of 2006 than any other club. Interesting!

Interesting one. Should Bailey coach Sunday, or should it depend on whether Riley wants to? If Riley is happy to, should it be Riley? Thoughts?

If he did, he would be assured of coming into 2008 with a 100% record .

Press Conference: 10 am tomo.

Will he be in the coaches box on Sunday if he gets the gig?

My preferred trade

Cameron Bruce, pick 18 and pick 20

to the Kangaroos for

Daniel Wells and pick 13

This lands us Wells, and we still have picks 2 and 13 in the draft

Aren't we presuming a little much here i.e. that we lose to Carlton and retain the picks. There are bookies out there who are willing to risk serious money against this eventuality.

i could still get 2nd

WJ, any chance you want to tell us your password to the oztips site? could make it an interesting friday night if we did your tips for you. lol

I'll make it easy for you.

In order for my lead to be halved, the people in equal second place will need to come up with results that would give us the wooden spoon!

i am not interested in allegations, medical records or what was said.

but you make a good point here. if 7 knew the records were stolen they could be in all sorts of problems...considering they paid for the documents.

and given this is the case, i guess we are never going to hear officially what was in them...

I don't practice much in the criminal law field these days but my recollection of the law is that the person who obtained them doesn't even have to know for sure that the records were stolen. It would be sufficient if he/she reasonably suspected that they were stolen or unlawfully obtained. However, the authorities might decide it's all to hard a case to prove. Redleg might be able to add some light with his vast knowledge of crime and the criminal mind?

wont float....for then the AFL would have to concede that TANKING actually exists !!

Andrew Demetriou said tanking doesn't happen but apparently (according to a poster on the Blues' supporter site - Tanking Carlton) in "the Herald Sun tomorrow, Kouta is quoted as saying that he believes we'd be better off losing against Melbourne." Kouta should be careful. He's still a registered AFL player and the powers that be could slap him with a please explain on the grounds that he's bringing the game into disrepute.

No, we can't mention it here. If you're clever you can find it though. Happy hunting.

Exactly and this thread is locked until the Supreme Court injunction is lifted.

Don't play any injured or saw players. Injured players cost us games.

Please don't give the selectors any suggestions or ideas. They might take them up.

Some sensational tipping will be needed to dislodge our leader the great Whispering_Jack (me) who remains 4 in front of a trio of challengers.

1. (1) 108 Whispering_Jack

2. (2) 104 Clyde_Cabbie

2. (5) 104 demon_davey

2. (2) 104 slamevil

5. (2) 103 deanox

5. (7) 103 Demonland

7. (8) 102 DeMoNiC

8. (8) 101 canberrademon(herb)

9. (5) 100 deesthisyear

9. (10) 100 Scoop Junior

11. (11) 99 Alpha_33

11. (11) 99 Pinball_Wizard

13. (14) 98 snarler_0

14. (11) 97 great_gatsby

15. (17) 96 petejh2000

16. (15) 95 achirnside

17. (18) 94 frangas

17. (15) 94 Rivers Run Red

19. (18) 90 Go_Ds

20. (21) 88 Jackieboy_0

21. (20) 87 BigKev Demon

22. (22) 82 bl3281

23. (23) 81 dee'viator

24. (25) 78 No Cigar

25. (24) 77 TimDees

26. (26) 73 paliosiana

27. (27) 70 KrazyJay

28. (28) 68 rusty_corner

29. (29) 67 Goodvibes

30. (30) 66 CarnTheDees

31. (31) 59 Kieranbj

32. (32) 58 demon_fanatic

33. (33) 57 Dees_Fan16

34. (34) 55 Fingers Power

35. (35) 54 Dappadan

36. (36) 48 melon22

37. (37) 47 jaded24

38. (38) 39 rusty_kingswood

SANDRINGHAM?

B Bizzell Biddlecombe Martyn

HB CJ Ferguson Paterakis

C Buckley C Liddell Poyas

HF Dunn Crowe Sylvia

F Newton Sautner T Johnston

FOLL Neaves Summers Valenti

IC Jamar Gilchrist Garland Hughes Monaghan M Johnston S Martin Neville ?????????????

It's not even worth speculating on the team until we know who's avalable for Melbourne v Carlton. There might be very few Demons in the Sandy team at all unless we have a few coming back from injury.

This is what the AFL site is saying - COURT ACTION OVER AFL STORY and in the circumstances we'll go into lockdown until it's safe to open up again. For those who don't know the name of the club it's not Melbourne and we definitely won't merge this topic with any other.

Edit: The following additional newspaper stories hve been published this morning - DRUG SHOCKS TOP MELBOURNE CLUB

- DRUGS CLAIM ROCKS AFL

It appears that the Supreme Court injunction was obtained on behalf of the doctor treating the players and it prevents publication of the players' names and the club they represent. In the circumstances we will remain in lockdown on the subject.

If you value the facilities that your club's supporter websites provide I suggest that, for the time being you refrain from commenting on this subject on Demonland or Demonology.

Warnock is from the Sandy area, as is his brother. This is one of the reasons why some of us think we may be able to prise him away from Fremantle when he is out of contract which is this year, I believe. Our Warnock has been carrying an ankle injury recently and is rumoured to be not 100% fit, so I guess he is going for a free ride as insurance.

The naming of Hayes and Weetra in the reserves team leaves only five MFC players in the Sandy team; this has got to be some sort of record.

Note however that six of the eight players named on the bench for Sandy tomorrow have also been named in the reserves. That leaves room for at least two of those players to remain in the seniors and hopefully they will be Weetra and Hayes.

Incidentally, according to the Hobart Mercury Sandringham's opponent in next week's qualifying final Williamstown, will by contrast play 15 Collingwood-listed players (including Brodie Holland, Rhyce Shaw, Paul Licuria, Ryan Lonie and Sam Iles) in tomorrow's final round game against the Tassie Devils.

INS - Bruce, Ward, Miller, C Johnson, P Johnson, Buckley

OUTS - Bate, Davey, Bell, Holland, Wheatley, Mc Donald - ALL INJURED

"Issue for any candidate, be it Sheedy or anyone else, is to look at their record (and if KS record in recent years been ard 40pc win ratio...)

Statistics and damned lies. What's the ratio in recent years if we take out 2006 which was hobbled by injury? Or more particularly, take out 2006 after Matthew Lloyd was injured following Round 1 when he kicked 6 goals in the first quarter against the reigning premier?

Summers has already been rookied on an afl list and failed.

I actually spoke to him a year back and asked him whether he was trying to get a rookie spot on another AFL team's list like MFC. (I'm a Summers fan).

He told me that when he was on an AFL list he didn't handle it well and he didn't have the drive to be an AFL player. He said that he was more than happy playing VFL and continuing other employment ventures as well ... This is coming from him mouth, I don't think he can be an AFL player.

Valenti on the other hand is young and committed and it seems to me has the passion/skill to make it at AFL. I'd be more than happy to rookie him.

Summers may have changed his position since because from the sound of the IF article he might be happy to get onto an AFL list.

It should also be noted that the MFC doesn't have automatic first call on players who happen to be on Sandy's list. I wouldn't be surprised if players like Valenti, Summers, Monaghan, Stefan Martin and Tomi Johnston get strong consideration by clubs at the end of the year.

Just back from the reserves game (I'm off for an afternoon of culture and art soon) and the Reserves' season virtually ended with defeat at the hands of North Ballarat, one of the club's rivals for a finals place. It was a depleted reserves team with at least four and possibly five of the seelcted side out including Melbounre listed player Heath Neville. They struggled early and then got ahead by a point with the first two goals but they were outclassed for almost all of the next two quarters before mounting a comeback of sorts late in the third term and in the first half of the last quarter. Unfortunalty, the Roosters kicked away at the end and that was it.

Daniel Hayes looked pretty classy but Isaac Weetra was out of the play for most of the game. Each kicked a goal but they are still very much in their development stages.

Sandringham 1.5.11 4.9.33 6.12.48 12.20.92

North Ballarat 3.4 22 8.10.58 13.16.94 18.18.126

Goals

Sandringham Cleeve Yaman 2 Curcio Dean Dunne Hayes McGettigan Turcarelli Weetra Williams

North Ballarat Schultz 4 Ewart Hardy Taylor 2 Burchell Dignan Drew Grima Morgan Otto Urquhart Raworth

Best

Sandringham McKenzie McGettigan Dean Gribbin Turcarelli Tregear

North Ballarat Drew Clark Lewis Schultz Parkin Morgan

A reasonably good crowd of Demon supporters are on hand and I saw some players in the crowd as well. James Frawley was there early (obviously catching up on some of his old North Ballarat mates) but I also saw Colin Garland walking around the boundary about half an hour before the game so I would suggest he's not playing.

Edit: Quarter time sees the Zebras trailing by 14 points after some inaccuracy in front of goal.

Sandringham 2.7.19

North Ballarat 5.3.33