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This week’s 2024 Coates Talent League: Round 19 POTW

For Melbourne, the kickoff takes place on Saturday night at GMHBA Stadium against Geelong at 7.15pm. The club has been given a tough starting schedule as they take on preliminary finalists Geelong in round 1, followed by grand finalists Brisbane and North Melbourne. Demonland will be here to cover the 2024 campaign with previews, match reports and plenty of discussion about our favourite women’s team. Here’s an article from the Herald Sun ~ New look Demons searching for Cats redemption We also have a big season preview from Meggs coming up soon.

The Rookie Me Central has a new number one headlining their August Power Rankings update, along with two entrants to their list of 30.

We already have a few players on our list who will enter 2025 with question marks about their capacity to play at the top of their game. Getting him would be a backward step.

You don’t need slow motion even if it helps Kozzy’s case. At normal speed, it’s clear that Kozzy was attacking the football at great pace which is exactly what you want your player to do. At the same time Moore is coming into the contest from the side and stumbles into his path clumsily, contributing to an accidental collision. On review, that is not rough conduct and should be reduced to a much lesser grading.

Pre finals draft order:- ROUND ONE 1 Richmond 2 North Melbourne 3 West Coast Eagles 4 Adelaide 5 Melbourne 6 Coast Suns 7 St Kilda 8 Essendon 9 Fremantle 10 Fremantle (tied to Collingwood) 11 Carlton 12 Hawthorn 13 Gold Coast Suns (tied to Western Bulldogs) 14 Brisbane 15 GWS Giants 16 Geelong 17 Fremantle (tied to Port Adelaide) 18 Sydney Swans END OF ROUND ONE 19 Sydney Swans (tied to North Melbourne assistance package) 20 Gold Coast Suns (tied to North Melbourne assistance package) ROUND TWO 21 Richmond 22 North Melbourne 23 West Coast Eagles 24 St Kilda (tied to Adelaide) 25 Adelaide (tied to Melbourne) 26 Gold Coast Suns 27 Fremantle (tied to St Kilda) 28 Essendon 29 Richmond (tied to Fremantle) 30 Hawthorn (tied to Collingwood) 31 Carlton 32 Collingwood (tied to Hawthorn) 33 Western Bulldogs 34 Gold Coast Suns (tied to Brisbane Lions) 35 GWS Giants 36 Geelong 37 Port Adelaide 38 Melbourne (tied to Sydney Swans) ROUND THREE 39 Richmond 40 North Melbourne 41 Richmond (tied to West Coast Eagles) 42 Adelaide 43 St Kilda (tied to Melbourne) 44 Western Bulldogs (tied to Gold Coast Suns) 45 Melbourne (tied to St Kilda) 46 Gold Coast Suns (tied to Essendon) 47 Richmond (tied to Fremantle) 48 Collingwood 49 GWS Giants (tied to Carlton) 50 Collingwood (tied to Hawthorn) 51 Melbourne (tied to Western Bulldogs) 52 Brisbane 53 GWS Giants 54 Geelong 55 Port Adelaide 56 Sydney Swans ROUND FOUR 57 Richmond 58 North Melbourne 59 West Coast Eagles 60 Adelaide 61 Melbourne 61 Carlton (tied to Gold Coast Suns) 62 Fremantle (tied to St Kilda) 64 North Melbourne (tied to Essendon) 65 Carlton (tied to Fremantle) 66 Richmond (tied to a Collingwood) 67 Hawthorn (tied to Carlton) 68 Brisbane (tied to Hawthorn) 69 Carlton (tied to Western Bulldogs) 70 Gold Coast (tied to Brisbane Lions) 71 GWS Giants 72 Geelong 73 Richmond (tied to Port Adelaide) 74 Hawthorn (tied to Sydney Swans)

The main headline definitely does not describe Melbourne’s game last night.

A look at how some of the top prospects are travelling as we approach the pointy end of the season. Draft watch: Leather poisoning for top prospects

2024 Coates Talent League: Round 18 POTW

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What Petracca told his Melbourne teammates and how the playing group reacted

The draft order as we come into the last round before the finals:- ROUND ONE 1 Richmond 2 North Melbourne 3 West Coast Eagles 4 Adelaide 5 Coast Suns 6 St Kilda 7 Melbourne 8 Essendon 9 Fremantle (tied to Collingwood) 10 Fremantle 11 Carlton 12 Hawthorn 13 Gold Coast Suns (tied to Western Bulldogs) 14 Brisbane 15 Geelong 16 GWS Giants 17 Fremantle (tied to Port Adelaide) 18 Sydney Swans END OF ROUND ONE 19 Sydney Swans (tied to North Melbourne assistance package) 20 Gold Coast Suns (tied to North Melbourne assistance package) ROUND TWO 21 Richmond 22 North Melbourne 23 West Coast Eagles 24 St Kilda (tied to Adelaide) 25 Gold Coast Suns 26 Fremantle (tied to St Kilda) 27 Adelaide (tied to Melbourne) 28 Essendon 29 Hawthorn (tied to Collingwood) 30 Richmond (tied to Fremantle) 31 Carlton 32 Collingwood (tied to Hawthorn) 33 Western Bulldogs 34 Gold Coast Suns (tied to Brisbane Lions) 35 Geelong 36 GWS Giants 37 Port Adelaide 38 Melbourne (tied to Sydney Swans) ROUND THREE 39 Richmond 40 North Melbourne 41 Richmond (tied to West Coast Eagles) 42 Adelaide 43 Western Bulldogs (tied to Gold Coast Suns) 44 Melbourne (tied to St Kilda) 45 St Kilda (tied to Melbourne) 46 Gold Coast Suns (tied to Essendon) 47 Collingwood 48 Richmond (tied to Fremantle) 49 GWS Giants (tied to Carlton) 50 Collingwood (tied to Hawthorn) 51 Melbourne (tied to Western Bulldogs) 52 Brisbane 53 Geelong 54 GWS Giants 55 Port Adelaide 56 Sydney Swans ROUND FOUR 57 Richmond 58 North Melbourne 59 West Coast Eagles 60 Adelaide 61 Carlton (tied to Gold Coast Suns) 62 Fremantle (tied to St Kilda) 63 Melbourne 64 North Melbourne (tied to Essendon) 65 Richmond (tied to a Collingwood) 66 Carlton (tied to Fremantle) 67 Hawthorn (tied to Carlton) 68 Brisbane (tied to Hawthorn) 69 Carlton (tied to Western Bulldogs) 70 Gold Coast (tied to Brisbane Lions) 71 Geelong 72 GWS Giants 73 Richmond (tied to Port Adelaide) 74 Hawthorn (tied to Sydney Swans)

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Yes, I got the feeling that the item might have been composed by someone working in a call centre in Mumbai or Manila. Postscript This is their list in order from 5 to 1:- 5. Todd Viney (1987-1999) was a key figure for the Demons, renowned for his relentless effort and leadership as a midfielder. His dual role in both defense and attack, coupled with his inspirational presence, made him a significant contributor to the team’s success during his career. 4. David Neitz (1993-2008) established himself as one of the league’s top forwards, known for his goal-scoring prowess and strategic play. As captain for much of his tenure, Neitz’s leadership and skill left a lasting impression on the team and its supporters. 3. Ian Ridley (1954-1961) played a crucial role in the 1950s, recognized for his versatility and strong defensive skills. Ridley’s ability to adapt and excel in various positions was pivotal to the team’s achievements 2. Norm Smith (1952-1967) was a formidable player and coach, instrumental in guiding the Demons to several premierships. His strategic insight and leadership both on and off the field solidified his legacy within the club. 1. Robert Flower (1973-1987) stands out as perhaps the greatest player in the Demons’ history, known for his extraordinary talent and consistency.

This interesting piece came up on one of my feeds and, given that the men’s season is nearing an end for Demon fans and with all of the scuttlebutt swirling around concerning possible departures, I thought it was well worth some discussion. The greatest players in Melbourne Demons History The article is tremendously flawed. For starters, it omits our greatest ever in the late Ronald Dale Barassi who leads the rest of the field by the extent of daylight to Robbie Flower who comes in second in my estimation. David Neitz ahead of Garry Lyon? Questionable. Where does Jim Stynes fit in? Ivor Warne-Smith? Norm Smith was before my time but does he beat Jack Mueller? The author actually places him in his timeline as a coach (1952-1967) but he finished playing long before that. What about the dwindling number of greats who played in our golden era of the 50s and 60s? Sure, Ian Ridley gets a guernsey but does he get in front of Brian Dixon, Laurie Mithen, Noel McMahen, Don Williams, Stuart Spencer, Hassa Mann, Tassie Johnson and Big Bob Johnson? And then there’s the current crop of stars like Maxy, Jack Viney, Clayton Oliver and Christian Petracca? Would the last player on that list risk his standing and legacy in the pantheon of Demon stars if he leaves us for whatever reason has prompted him to even consider the thought as has been rumoured by some in the media? Footnote: the article is so heavily monetized that my final thought is that it’s an epic piece of clickbait. The list of five “players” is:- 1 Robert Flower 2 Norm Smith 3 Ian Ridley 4 David Neitz 5 Todd Viney

Essendon rookie Jaiden Hunter returned home to WA today after the Bombers said he would not be offered a new contract. He becomes the first delisted player for the year.

I read an article yesterday that suggested Port Adelaide was saying it wanted ANB and our first pick in the draft for Houston. It was probably based on conjecture but, at anything near that cost, I would be disappointed if we were interested in dealing with him anyway. Moreover, if he’s on board with the way the media is reporting the situation (and I’m not suggesting he is), then he’s not the person we want either.

From a Herald Sun online report on an APS v AGS game played at Caulfield Grammar School featuring a number of high profile potential players including “Noah Yze (Caulfield) Yze imposed himself on the contest in the first quarter with three marks that set up two goals. One was an intercept mark that led to a goal assist to teammate Charlie Rowe and another saw him slot through a major for himself from range. The 190cm Yze is linked to Melbourne through his father Adem, and has already played two games at VFL level, kicking a goal in one of those and laying seven tackles.”

It would be fair to say that the decline in Melbourne’s fortunes as it staggers towards the end of the season has provided us with a stark reminder of the need to replenish AFL team lists and maintain depth. The coming months without participation in the finals will see activity in the trade, free agency and draft period that will determine whether the club’s slide continues or whether it can resurrect itself in the same way that Geelong has done this year. But planning for list changes goes beyond the mere short term. Clubs are already looking beyond this year’s draft and on to 2025 and 2026. As always, there are some interesting prospects coming up and the AFL’s futures trials are almost here. SQUADS | 2024 AFL Under 17 Futures trials

Demons have the advantage of the wind in the next quarter but they need someone like Riley Sanders who has the ball on a string.

The Summer Olympic Games of 1924 were held in Paris but unlike this year’s modern version which runs for just over two weeks, they lasted almost three months from early May until late July. The 1924 version signalled the acceptance of the Games as a major event with widespread appeal with an increase of participation from 29 to 44. Over 3,000 athletes participated including nine from Australia, of whom Nick Winter (triple jump), Dick Eve (high diving) and Boy Charlton (1,500m freestyle swimming) winning gold. The hero of the Games was Finnish distance runner Paavo Nurmi won five gold medals to add to the three he had won in 1920. On a single day, 10 July 1924, he easily won the 1500m and then, a mere 55 minutes later, he returned to the track to win the 5,000m. Meanwhile, American swimmer Johnny Weissmuller won three golds. After claiming two further golds at the 1928 Games, he went on to play Tarzan of the Apes in twelve movies. The Paris Games themselves became immortalised in "Chariots of Fire", the Oscar-winning film about Eric Liddell, a devout Scottish Christian who ran for the glory of God, and Harold Abrahams, a Jew who ran to overcome prejudice. American Richard Norris Williams was arguably, the most interesting story of the Games. He had narrowly avoided having both legs amputated after jumping into frozen water during the sinking of the Titanic on 15 April 1912. Following his rescue, he went on to enjoy a highly successful tennis career which included a mixed doubles gold with Hazel Hotchkiss Wightman at Paris in 1924. The Closing Ceremony ritual was introduced involving the raising of three flags: the flag of the International Olympic Committee, the flag of the host nation and the flag of the next host nation. The VFL competition continued but things were not going well for the Redlegs. They had shocked the Blues in their first meeting for the season but this time were unable to make it a double despite having a rare strong last quarter. Poor disposal in front of goals was again their downfall. Round 13 Melbourne vs Carlton Saturday 19 July 1924 Venue: MCG Attendance: 17,931 MELBOURNE 1.1.7 3.8.26 5.11.41 7.13.55 CARLTON 3.4.22 5.4.34 9.6.60 9.8.62 Goals Percy Tulloh Alf Wilson 2 Hugh Dunbar Derek Mollison George Simmonds Skipper Bert Chadwick was in dispute with the committee during the week and emerged with the right to use his own judgement in setting the team. His changes actually saw a marked improvement in the side's play. Late in the game he moved himself into the ruck, put Bob Corbett on the wing and instructed his men to go through him. With four minutes to play the margin was back to seven points but they made no further inroads. Best were Taylor, Chadwick and Mollison. Seconds - Carlton 10.4.64 d. Melbourne 4.10.34 Round 14 South Melbourne vs Melbourne Saturday 26 July 1924 Venue: Lake Oval Attendance: 16,000 SOUTH MELBOURNE 2.2.14 3.4.22 6.7.43 12.13.85 MELBOURNE 1.3.9 4.7.31 4.7.31 5.8.38 Goals George Simmonds 2 Bobby Ewer Richard Taylor Percy Tulloh Hit by injuries and the unavailability of players, Melbourne nevertheless led by 9 points at half time before South Melbourne took over and blew the Redlegs off the park with a withering nine goal to one second half in slippery conditions as they finished the game with only 15 fit men. Coy, Streeter and Corbett were Melbourne's best as the team played its last game before three weeks off for the interstate carnival. Its season was virtually over. Seconds - Leopold 12.14.86 d. Melbourne 7.17.59 Round 15 Melbourne vs Geelong Saturday 2 August 1924 Venue: MCG Attendance: 7,382 MELBOURNE 0.0.0 1.6.12 2.8.20 5.9.39 GEELONG 5.2.32 5.5.35 8.7.55 8.8.56 Goals Percy Tulloh 2 Dave Elliman George Haines George Simmonds When Melbourne returned to play on a bleak August day, the wind and rain saw them on the back foot from the very start as they went scoreless in the opening quarter - this, after three scoreless fourth quarters rough the season. There were some excuses given that both Dunbar brothers, both Wilson brothers, Wittman, Streeter and Donaldson were all absent, amongst eight changes and did well to at least perform with some respectability after the first break. Thomas, Chadwick and Coy were their best in game played before a meagre crowd. Seconds Geelong 20.17.137 d. Melbourne 2.5.17

It’s been subsequently revised to 64.

Similar score line to the last AFL game between the Demons and the Giants. Surely that can’t be repeated a third time tonight?

With such an even group in the pool, it’s going to be an interesting time to follow this year’s draft ~ Who will be No.1? 'Five or six' contenders in wide open draft pool

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