Whispering_Jack

Early in this thread I cited one of the leading draft watchers Knightmare and we've done well based on his assessments:- Our five new players tonight all feature prominently in his 2014 draft power rankings. There are 18 clubs in the competition and we have 5 in Knightmare's top 30 including the top two:- Best few on list quality 1. Christian Petracca (VIC – Mid/Fwd) 2. Angus Brayshaw (VIC – Mid) Capable contributors 23. Oscar McDonald (VIC – KPD) 27. Alex Neal-Bullen (SA – Mid) 29. Billy Stretch (Melb – F/S - SA – Mid/Fwd) Knightmare also had Brayshaw and Petracca at 2 & 3 and Neal-Bullen and McDonald at 21 & 22. Stretch was a father/son.

Check out the big, fat boofhead at the GWS table. My informant at the venue tells me he's already broken two convention centre chairs and they only sat down 20 minutes ago.

The Clark/Landsberger Phantom Draft The Emma Quayle Phantom Draft The Brett Anderson Phantom Draft The Paige Cardona Phantom Draft The trend seems to be going in favour of the Saints picking McCartin and, as many have commented both here and elsewhere, we are going to end up with two of the best three young talents on draft day. We don't know how it will end up once the players drafted join their clubs but the vibe and the Mabo in me are saying it will be a good result for us. The ones we need to nail now are 40 and 53 and of course, a couple of handy rookies next week.

It's probably worthwhile at this stage to take a look at Knightmare's latest power rankings*:- KNIGHTMARE 2014 DRAFT POWER RANKINGS: Best few on list quality 1. Christian Petracca (VIC Mid/Fwd) 2. Angus Brayshaw (VIC Mid) 3. Isaac Heeney (Syd Academy - NSW Mid) 4. Darcy Moore (Coll - F/S VIC KPF/KPD) 5. Patrick McCartin (VIC - KPF) 6. Reece McKenzie (VIC KPF) 7. Connor Blakely (WA Mid) 8. Peter Wright (VIC - KPF/Ruck) 9. Jarrod Pickett (WA Mid/Fwd) 10. Jake Lever (VIC KPD) 11. Jayden Laverde (VIC Util) 12. Kyle Langford (VIC Util) High level difference makers 13. Jack Steele (GWS - Academy - NSW Mid/Fwd) 14. Lachlan Weller (QLD Util) 15. Nakia Cockatoo (NT Util) 16. Hugh Goddard (VIC KPD/KPF) 17. Jordan De Goey (VIC Mid/Fwd) 18. Sam Durdin (SA KPD/KPF) 19. Jarrod Garlett (WA Mid) 20. Liam Duggan (VIC Util) Capable contributors 21. Connor Menadue (VIC Mid/Def) 22. Corey Ellis (VIC Util) 23. Caleb Marchbank (VIC KPD) 24. Oscar McDonald (VIC KPD) 25. Toby McLean (VIC Fwd/Mid) 26. Dean Gore (SA Mid/Fwd) 27. Alex Neal-Bullen (SA Mid) 28. Paul Ahern (VIC Mid/Fwd) 29. Billy Stretch (Melb F/S - SA Mid/Fwd) 30. Damien Cavka (VIC Mid/Fwd) 31. Peter Bampton (SA Mid) Best of the rest 32. Brayden Maynard (VIC Util) 33. Liam Dawson (Bris Academy - QLD Util) 34. Caleb Daniel (SA Mid/Fwd) 35. Josh Glenn (SA Util) 36. Tom Lamb (VIC Util) 37. Touk Miller (VIC Mid/Fwd) 38. Daniel McKenzie (VIC Def/Mid) 39.Harris Andrews (Bris Academy - QLD KPD/KPF) 40. Jeremy Finlayson (GWS Academy NSW KPD/KPF) 41. Jack Hiscox (Syd Academy - NSW Util) 42. Daniel Howe (VIC Util) 43. Clem Smith (WA - Util) 44. Edward Vickers-Willis (VIC Util) 45. Mason Cox (USA Ruck/KPF) 46. Conor McKenna (IRE Fwd) 47. Will Fordham (VIC Mid) 48. Brett Turner (SA Mid/Fwd) 49. Nic Newman (VIC Def) 50. Blaine Boekhurst (WA Util) The Next 10 51. Pat McKenna (VIC Fwd) 52.Billy Evans (VIC Mid/Fwd) 53. Brett Eddy (SA KPF) 54. Edward Langdon (VIC Fwd/Mid) 55.Nathan Drummond (VIC Mid/Def) 56.Brenden Abbott (WA Util) 57. Garrett McDonagh (VIC Def) 58. Billy Gowers (VIC Util) 59. Jaden McGrath (VIC Mid/Fwd) 60. Aidan Anderson (WA - Fwd) * for an early version of Knightmare's power rankings refer to the first page of this thread. *

The Saints would have to be rope-able if the news and the circumstances in Sam McClure's tweet have been leaked by a club insider. It's not a good look for the club to be taking pot shots at a high draft choice and, as I mentioned elsewhere it could also backfire badly on them. I don't believe the AFL would be happy about it either. The fact remains that for at least the past 6 to 8 weeks there's been a familiar tone in draft circles suggesting the Petracca will go at # 1 and he will be followed by Brayshaw. If the latest rumour is fact then we get both of them. I was just getting used to the thought of us getting Brayshaw and McCartin and now this. To have two strong mid sized players of this calibre coming onto the list really gives our midfield stocks a major boost and it's also a major game changer in terms of what the club will do with the two later picks at # 40 and 53. It would be interesting if Reece McKenzie was still available at 40.

Tweet from Paige Cardona:-

Isn't this also a thread about a cheating low life (admittedly one about whose existence some are attempting to expunge from their minds)?

In four days time it will be about five years since we called out the name of the little rat who gave rise to this thread. Surely, you're all sick of not speaking any T$ or B$ by now and it's time to close the thread down?

AFL Draft Pick Me: Christian Petracca has AFL-ready body and is set to be the No.1 draft pick

And all you want to know about the draft prospects ~ http://m.afl.com.au/draft

Paige Cardona's final phantom draft.

The game's not the same without Richie, Greigy and Bill in the combox together. It's all monotone, monotone and more of the same. Fair dinkum, not even the Third Man could get any material for a best selling CD out of this lot!

Every year, Bigfooty poster Snoop Dog puts out one of the more interesting and better Phantom Drafts and this year it's no different. Like most of the others, he has Christian Petracca as the first choice with Paddy McCartin and Angus Brayshaw at 2 and 3 going to Melbourne (note the order). However, he considers Petracca, Peter Wright and McCartin as the best three players in the draft leaving out my two choices Brayshaw and Jake Lever. Here are his descriptions of McCartin, Brayshaw and Lever:- Now that Melbourne officially (well ... almost) has # 40 in play, it's worth noting Snoop Dog's choice of Ed Langdon. Since one or two others have put Langdon in this position, do they know something? Predictably, the Dog expects # 53 to be used to upgrade Neville Jetta which still seems likely although there are reports that the club is considering a further delisting.The other player mentioned in his Phantom Draft is Billy Stretch who gets a nice tick. Snoop Dog goes all the way down through to his rookie draft picks but I won't go there. It's a good read on Bigfooty and thankfully not as long-winded as some of his past efforts. Well worth the read.

Once a day we have some delusional character coming on and telling us how many days to go before some footy event takes place but it's not quite clear what he's mumbling about. Otherwise, it's mostly about bananas, alpacas and milking cows. Pretty simple and straightforward really.

The Herald Sun's Phantom Draft has us taking Brayshaw/McCartin with Two Metre Peter dropping possibly as far as 17. Phantom Draft 2014: Christian Petracca set to be No.1 pick, Essendon could land bargain in Peter Wright

I think I might have to turn the udder cheek to that one.

That's just about where we stand at the moment but I wonder if the situation can be resolved by not promoting Nev Jetta officially off the rookie list but promoting him before the season starts (when JT goes onto the LTI)? I understand that we've offered him a new contract and said we'll upgrade him but can this be done?

Dana? You mean Voldemort has not only done the sex change thing but changed his name as well? That'll make him/her completely at home at the Gat now, won't it?

Paige Cardona is the rising star of draft experts. Here she looks at the Draft Bolters and Sliders.

If that is a genuine photograph of the person who can't be named then either the GWS fitness and conditioning staff have worked wonders with him since he left Melbourne or Stephen Dank's been doing some under cover work in West Sydney.

Welcome back Old Dee. Lots of things are happening on the site, at Melbourne and of course with the Essendon dope saga.For instance, were expecting a big announcement from ASADA later this decade. On the Essendon front they've gone and hired a new assistant coach to the golden boy who is now known as "coach for life". The name of the new assistant is Mark Needle about who Bomber President proudly said when announcing the appointment, "with a name like 'Needle', he was the perfect candidate". Apparently, nobody was game enough to tell him that Tanya Hird who took copious notes during the interview process is a poor speller. Little also revealed that the selection panel was forced to overlook the only other realistic candidate George Stoned because he announced his retirement immediately after his interview. Meanwhile, Herald Sun football manager continues to insist that the mothers of half the team don't exist.

This looks like a good resource for the draft ~ The Draft Hub

On what little I saw of him he looks lightly built and not ready for AFL. The TAC Cup clubs take a few overage age players every year and, if he qualifies, then perhaps another year at this level might hold him in good stead. Collingwood's Tom Langdon did exactly that at the Sandy Dragons in 2013 before getting drafted at 65 as a 19 year old and then had a very successful debut season with the Pies. And of course, Tyler could keep an eye on the young potential recruits coming up in the competition for us - the perfect recruiting scout.

Thanks 'oil. Well, she's at odds with Chris25 who recently released his updated phantom draft (still no detailed profiles). He selects Bampton at 40 which would suit me - and he also has Gore available at that choice. I think his top four is about right to with the Saints taking Petracca, us getting Brayshaw and Lever and the Giants getting McCartin as their replacement for Boyd. The Saints get their KPF with their second pick and we unite two brothers with pick 53.I don't think the two Macs will end up in the same team (not even sure that we'll use 53 in the draft or at all yet) but I'd be happy with this (noting we would then take Nev as a rookie upgrade in the 80s) - Round 1 1. St Kilda - Christian Petracca (186cm, 92kg midfielder/forward from Eastern Ranges, VIC) 2. Melbourne - Angus Brayshaw (187cm, 86kg midfielder from Sandringhan Dragons, VIC) 3. Melbourne - Jake Lever (192cm, 84kg defender from Calder Cannons, VIC) 4. GWS - Patrick McCartin (193cm, 95kg forward from Geelong Falcons, VIC) 5. Collingwood - Lachie Weller(181cm, 71kg midfielder from Broadbeach, QLD) 6. GWS - Jordan DeGoey (187cm, 82kg midfielder from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC) 7. GWS - Peter Wright (203cm, 102kg ruckman/forward from Calder Cannons, VIC) 8. Gold Coast - Jayden Laverde (189cm, 82kg midfielder/defender from Western Jets, VIC) 9. Collingwood - Darcy Moore (199cm, 93kg defender/forward from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC) 10. Geelong - Jarrod Pickett (180cm, 68kg midfielder from South Fremantle, WA) 11. West Coast - Paul Ahern (181cm, 77kg midfielder from Calder Cannons, VIC) 12. Richmond - Liam Duggan(183cm, 76kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC) 13. Fremantle - Sam Durdin (197cm, 87kg defender/forward from West Adelaide, SA) 14. Adelaide - Hugh Goddard (196cm, 93kg defender/forward from Geelong Falcons, VIC) 15. Gold Coast - Kyle Langford (190cm, 73kg forward/defender from Northern Knights, VIC) 16. North Melbourne - Tom Lamb (192cm, 83kg forward from Dandenong Stingrays, VIC) 17. Essendon - Caleb Marchbank (193cm, 85kg defender from Murray Bushrangers, VIC) 18. Sydney - Isaac Heeney (186cm, 82kg midfielder from Cardiff, NSW/ACT) 19. Carlton - Corey Ellis (185cm, 76kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC) 20. Essendon - Jarrod Garlett (177cm, 73kg midfielder/forward from South Fremantle, WA) 21. St Kilda - Jackson Nelson (187cm, 80kg midfielder/defender from Geelong Falcons, VIC) Round 2 22. St Kilda - Reece McKenzie(196cm, 100kg forward from Northern Knights, VIC) 23. GWS - Keenan Ramsey (193cm, 86kg defender/forward from Port Adelaide, SA) 24. GWS - Jack Steele (186cm, 82kg midfielder from Belconnen, NSW/ACT) 25. North Melbourne - Nakia Cockatoo (188cm, 84kg midfielder/defender from NT Thunder, NT) 26. Western Bulldogs - Josh Glenn(179cm, 78kg midfielder/defender from Central Districts, SA) 27. Western Bulldogs - Connor Blakely (186cm, 81kg midfielder from Swan Districts, WA) 28. Carlton - Oleg Markov (186cm, 69kg midfielder from North Adelaide, SA) 29. Gold Coast - Mitch McGovern (191cm, 84kg forward from Claremont, WA) 30. Collingwood - Brayden Maynard (186cm, 88kg midfielder/defender from Sandringham Dragons, VIC) 31. Hawthorn - Declan Hamilton(183cm, 68kg midfielder/forward from Port Adelaide, SA) 32. West Coast - Brenden Abbott (185cm, 92kg midfielder/defender from Claremont, WA) 33. Richmond - Connor Menadue (188cm, 69kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC) 34. Fremantle - Clem Smith (178cm, 67kg defender/midfielder from Perth, WA) 35. Adelaide - Alex Neal-Bullen(182cm, 77kg midfielder/defender from Glenelg, SA) 36. North Melbourne - Damien Cavka (184cm, 79kg midfielder from Calder Cannons, VIC) 37. Sydney - Ed Vickers-Willis(190cm, 82kg defender from Sandringham Dragons, VIC) 38. Sydney - Jack Hiscox (184cm, 74kg midfielder from Sydney University, NSW) 39. Western Bulldogs - Daniel McKenzie (183cm, 77kg midfielder/defender from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC) 40. Melbourne - Peter Bampton (182cm, 83kg midfielder from Norwood, SA) Round 3 41. St Kilda - Christian Buykx-Smith (193cm, 82kg defender from Gippsland, VIC) 42. Melbourne - Billy Stretch (181cm, 70kg midfielder from Glenelg, SA) 43. Adelaide - James Rose (186cm, 78kg forward/midfielder from Sturt, SA) 44. Brisbane - Liam Dawson (188cm, 81kg defender/midfielder from Aspley, QLD) 45. Western Bulldogs - Caleb Daniel(167cm, 66kg midfielder from South Adelaide, SA) 46. Western Bulldogs - Brenton Payne (193cm, 76kg forward from Western Jets, VIC) 47. Geelong - Cory Gregson (175cm, 72kg midfielder from Glenelg, SA) 48. Collingwood - Harrison Wigg(179cm, 74kg midfielder/defender from North Adelaide, SA) 49. Hawthorn - Dean Gore (183cm, 86kg midfielder from Sturt, SA) 50. Hawthorn - Tom Read (200cm, 92kg ruckman from Sturt, SA) 51. West Coast - Dillon Viojo-Rainbow (185cm, 80kg defender from Western Jets, VIC) 52. Richmond - Jaden McGrath (179cm, 73kg midfielder/defender from Bendigo, VIC) 53. Melbourne - Oscar McDonald (196cm, 88kg defender from North Ballarat, VIC) 54. Fremantle - Mac Bower (190cm, 77kg defender/forward from Norwood, SA) 55. Geelong - Bailey Dale (182cm, 70kg midfielder/forward from Dandenong Stingrays, VIC) 56. North Melbourne - Tyler Keitel(194cm, 86kg forward/defender from East Perth, WA) 57. Port Adelaide - Ben Edwards (192cm, 73kg forward from Glenelg, SA) 58. Sydney - Brydon Hodgson (185cm, 79kg midfielder from Murray Bushrangers, NSW) 59. Adelaide - Daniel Nielson (193cm, 90kg defender from Eastern Ranges, VIC) Round 4 60. Geelong - Daniel Howe (191cm, 84kg defender/midfielder from Murray Bushrangers, VIC) 61. Carlton - Toby McLean (179cm, 70kg forward from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC) 62. Essendon - Aidan Anderson (182cm, 83kg forward from Swan Districts, WA) 63. Brisbane - Harris Andrews (198cm, 91kg defender from Aspley, QLD) 64. Western Bulldogs - Zaine Cordy (192cm, 80kg defender from Geelong Falcons, VIC) 65. Carlton - Josh McGuinness (189cm, 72kg defender from Lauderdale, TAS) 66. Gold Coast - Tom Faul (187cm, 86kg midfielder from Ainslie, NSW/ACT) 67. Brisbane - Daniel Butler (181cm, 79kg midfielder from North Ballarat, VIC) 68. Hawthorn - Hugh Beasley (190cm, 86kg defender from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC) 69. West Coast - Lukas Webb(186cm, 80kg midfielder/forward from Gippsland Power, VIC) 70. Richmond - Sam Bennett (189cm, 80kg defender from North Ballarat, VIC) 71. Essendon - Matthew Goodyear (185cm, 77kg midfielder from Calder Cannons, VIC) 72. Fremantle - Matthew Hanson (182cm, 73kg midfielder from Western Storm, TAS) 73. Geelong - Dougal Howard (195cm, 88kg forward from Murray Bushrangers, NSW) 74. North Melbourne - Brett Turner (183cm, 79kg midfielder from West Adelaide, SA) 75. Port Adelaide - Nick Jackson (195cm, 86kg defender from Aspley, QLD) 76. Sydney - Abe Davis (193cm, 90kg forward/defender from UNSW-Easts, NSW/ACT) 77. Hawthorn - Matthew Uebergang (193cm, 87kg forward from Ipswich, QLD) Other Picks 80. GWS - Jeremy Finlayson (195cm, 84kg forward/defender from Hills Eagles, NSW/ACT) 81. Brisbane - Josh Clayton (190cm, 80kg forward/midfielder from Sandringham Dragons, VIC) 87. West Coast - Alec Waterman (183cm, 89kg midfielder from Claremont, WA)

Is that Oscar the muppet or Oscar the pist?