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Didn't our Rivers from 15/20 years ago win this award? Did he go onto be a superstar? In their year Jesse Hogan beat Paddy Cripps. As good as this Coleman medallist is is he the same level as a dual Brownlow winner? As nice as this award would be it'll be better if his future is better than any Dees fan could possibly imagine.

He's had a good year. But is he obviously in the best 23? I'm sure there's a few possible selections like him that also missed this extended list.

Can he turn his career around? Do we want the risk? I think not. If there are problems in the playing ranks, whether a rift or overall team morale, they don't want to add to that. After two frustrating years I think everyone in the club wants to see a bounce next year. If I were a brand new coach I'd also wanna see a bounce. If I were Buckley I'd probably also wanna see a bounce too - a coach from the enemy replacing our only living premiership coach whose last few years saw a drop-off. On top of that whether coincidental his replacement took the 'same' team to success. So I'm sure he shouldn't risk it. Oh, and especially after we got caught at the foot of the ladder when the last new sides came in we sure as hell don't wanna be there again when Tasmania come in. So no, no, no, no,no, no, no. (I'd only recommend a team in the premiership window with an established coach, and many weeks of pondering, would risk this guy. Didn't he even point a gun at a teammate?

I'm really not too fussed. Even on here there are posters annoyed with May. If that's actually warranted I'm happy to see him go. AND if he goes TMac is a reasonable replacement.

I just read a rumour that May's off to the Bulldogs. It was from journo .... but it could be true. If so it makes sense to keep TMac.

So May's gone then? A big part on hearsay? I wouldn't surprise if he does go. But be that on what the new coaches know is real rather than guesses.

And what if it was a veteran player? He's "gifted" 4 weeks, plays so well that forever after the fans know he was an essential cog in their premiership win BUT now he can give the AFL the bird and laugh himself to sleep for years after! Basically he's escaped any punishment, won his flag and retired as he had always planned.

How do you know this?

Okay. This was always going to be a nightmare for the AFL. Snoop will always have baggage and would clash with AFLs family image. I'm sure the tribunal always broadcasts player penalties (and I'm glad Rankine's punishment is a warning to others and shows to some extent an intolerance of homophobia, regardless of offender or whether it cripples a club.) Unfortunately word got out early about this misdemeanor and we don't know Rankine's defence. In a perfect world, after a private trial, on Wednesday an announcement would have come out that Rankine's been penalised for 4 weeks for a homophobic slur and that "the AFL does not tolerate homophobia" and possibly that the penalty would have been higher if Rankine didn't have {insert problem}. But we don't have a perfect world.

How would that work? The Crows just tell porkies that some unspecified injury will keep ....no, scrap that...that Rankine's out a month for mental health reasons? Then the truth gets out even if just among the 18 clubs and some think this stunt belittles homophobia and /or mental illness. I think a lot of this is problematic. Sure, I'm glad there was some kind of deliberate trial before Rankine's name came out. But after maybe it's best that institutions and people confirm something homophobic happened ....and genuinely show that it's not on!

I'm so sick of so much of this. Most people try to just let things slide and bullies know this and know they can get away with a lot because of fear of retaliation . Whether it's having your lunch thrown in the school toilet, copping victim-blaming, being ostracised or portrayed as a troublemaker whose work complaint "suggests" theyre unemployable or on the footy field being lined up for a nasty injury the bullies prosper at every age. Who was it who complained against the turbocharged racial abuse from Damian Monkhorst a whole game? Winmar? All I know is that was about 30 years ago and Rankine's indiscretion is not the first "dobbed" in. I just know so many people are so hesitant to rock the boat that when they do complain you know it's serious. I get sick of the macho BS that's still out there. I had people tell me Brayshaw was a wuss for getting knocked out. Back in the noughties when players first revealed their mental health issues I'd hear the same [censored] say players on leave with clinical depression should just harden up and stop being pathetic. Surprise surprise we now have homophobia belittledby so many fans. Maybe at the edges Collingwood have been a little dodgy. Maybe the punishments meted out for specific indiscretions are comparably out of kilter. Maybe Snoop Dogg's gig is a complete joke. But let's get rid of the homophobia, which eventually will even impact players with gay friends or family. (And of course the elephant in the room is that not one - NOT ONE!- of over 10000 AFL players over 130 years has ever been/revealed they're gay while in 10 odd years of AFLW this has never been a problem.) I'm glad I didn't read the homophobic stuff and I'm sorry anyone including the gay poster on this thread was made to feel unsafe. A bit of respect and tolerance really shouldn't be that difficult.

There's so much supposition there. You could be very right or anything down to a bit right. Of course there's so many factor in this, including that the players are individuals rather than a single entity. Hopefully the new coaches are a high standard and thus make diligent decisions.

Yep, there's been some amazing transfers like Dangerfield, Neale, Lynch and J Cameron. But often they don't land. Of course we don't even know who the new coach is yet. But it will be interesting what strategy they use. Is this meant to be a weak draft?

No, but how much would it cost to lure most stars from a team they were happy with? We already have Kosi, Trac and Oliver on big money. How much wriggle room do we have?

Most trades are "rejects". There's also interstate players that want to go home, players that want to go to a team in the premiership window or for reasons like more opportunity to play in the seniors elsewhere. I'm not quite sure what you want. If we go out of our way to lure a star across we'd probably pay through the nose AND destabilise our already top heavy salary cap.

Fine. But do they have half-time in Hell? (Hehe .... Half-Time In Hell sounds like a good band name.)

Please don't go there. That whole debacle was depressing and embarrassing (and if social media were representative of the general public we have a lot of sad, hateful, ignorant people out there.)

No, I said something snapped midyear. After those 10 wins we were 6-6; which doesn't scream out premier. BTW you might want to re-check that 2022 ladder.

That's it! We're all going to Hell!

Don't they have Foxtel in Heaven? If not I'd complain to the manager.

That would affect memberships and tv ratings a bit but really in the grand scheme of things it's whether the players and coaches are happy with this. Are they? I doubt it. Most people want to do their best at whatever they do and I doubt many of our players would have bothered getting serious about footy as teens if they spent whole games being shown up. And i'm sure Bucks and / or whoever is new in the coaches will also want to break what seems like a curse.

Who's accepting close losses? Even if many fans were I doubt the coaches and players are. I'm sure I've seen the occasional coach after a gallant say they were happy but .... "happy, but ...."

Huh? Coach said Culley subbed cos he probably has whiplash.

I think there was a game where ex-Collingwood star Travis Cloke got his new Bulldogs team over the line and Collingwood fans were ropeable! Just imagine their grief if Buckley gets us a flag, especially if we mow down Collingwood to do it!

You make that sound like a bad thing! 😂