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I think that's a pessimistic view Dwight. Exposed by 7 points and 2 points in finals we should have won. If Angus didn’t get laid out we definitely win vs Collingwood and we played far better than Carlton but failed to convert. With an ounce of reasonable fortune, not even good fortune, we're reigning Premiers.

Agreed try going down to Swan Street on a Richmond home gameday and advise them that the Tigers actually finished 3rd in 2017, 2019 and 2020.

We were 2nd after Round 8 too. I think the post finals position is what matters. Sure H&A finishing position is important but only because of its influence on the final position.

I don't think that is correct, the final ladder is after the finals and the draft order and the next year's fixture (groups of six) are based on this. The Premiers finished first no matter where they were placed at the end of the home and away. Brisbane finished second, Carlton third, GWS fourth and we finished sixth.

Northern states teams need to continue to have priority access to draftees from their states. It grows the game there which is still necessary. They need to pay full price at the draft and use a pick within 18 (ie one round) of the bid that would prevent shenanigans like GC this year.

... we'll have finished somewhere from 9th to 18th?

From @DeeSpencer post on numbers it looks like 27 is still free for Marty Hore to take. That number has backline pedigree. Marty's original number 34 is also free so that would be appropriate unless they want to save it for Kalani White in 2026 but that's a long way off.

Kate's been working on a home base It's been more than a year or two We don't play home finals at Casey Against the Cats or Roos I guess patience is a virtue I got the straight sets red and blues

12 bar blues standard format.

Hence the term "small l liberal"

Who are the rucks we should have listed?

I predicted you predicted them.

I'm very happy with this outcome - it feels like Kynan will give everything to succeed and he can be at least a decent role player.

It may have been that someone else was also offering a deal to Geelong to pick Caddy and Essendon needed to trump that. As "Bnag" said ...

We don't have a player like Windsor on our list. Size, pace, endurance. Closest may be Blake Howes, but I don't think he particularly has the pace. Maybe Caleb's a bit like Max Holmes who we apparently also liked. That would be helpful.

Which mid do you have in mind that we missed out on last night? Charlie Edwards was the only one selected after our pick at 7 all the way through to 29 and he went at 21.

You can take that up with Ragnar

Denmark https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tholstrup "The Viking"

We'll take WC's and Adelaide's 2024 first rounders off Adelaide's hands for Harry Petty then ...

Is our 11 + F1 > Adelaide's 10 + 14/20?

@Demonland - sticky post at the top?

The hair.

Spot on! It's aching for a second verse, and there has been plenty of material, give it a try.

Novel criticism of my posting, thanks!

@Travy14