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Agree and we need extra class at ground level. Reid would be great but it might need to be Watson with our picks.

Max said himself on Gus and Gawny that he won't make 250 games. There's an understudy role there but not for a 29yo like Grundy.

McRae, Moore, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Quaynor, the Daicos brothers - I was almost starting to warm to Collingwood - but the whole Thursday night experience snapped me back to reality.

I like your thinking. Will he ever be able to bench press 150kg like Jack?

I'll happily vouch for the fact that you've been posting rubbish in both places for the best part of 20 years and it's time you were called on it.

You typed your reply as an addendum to my post. You're way out of your depth.

The AFL Tribunal is not a Court of Law - your continued insistence that the rules of law courts apply is erroneous. It has its own documented processes and procedures: https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2023/03/01/9c9bdc05-2377-4ffb-a8a0-885835edcaf1/2023-AFL-Tribunal-Guidelines.pdf Page 10 "Careless conduct A Player’s conduct will be regarded as Careless where his conduct is not intentional, but constitutes a breach of the duty of care owed by the Player to all other Players. Each Player owes a duty of care to all other Players, Umpires and other persons (as applicable) not to engage in conduct which will constitute a Reportable Offence being committed against that other Player, Umpire or other person. In order to constitute such a breach of that duty of care, the conduct must be such that a reasonable Player would not regard it as prudent in all the circumstances. Further, a Player will be careless if they breach their duty to take reasonable care to avoid acts which can be reasonably foreseen to result in a Reportable Offence. An example of careless conduct would be where a Player collides with another Player who has taken a mark and where contact occurs just after the mark has been taken. The offending Player has a duty of care to avoid any contact which would constitute a Reportable Offence by slowing his momentum as much as he reasonably can and a failure to do so constitutes carelessness." Maynard breached his duty of care to Brayshaw.

It's unsurprising that you are Maynard's greatest advocate since it seems you see the solution to all issues through the prism of violence. You're probably suffering from PTSD from a lifetime of associating with career criminals through your legal practice. Seek help before it's too late.

Just to be absolutely clear - the AFL Tribunal is not a Court of Law. There's a specific AFL document that sets out its conduct: https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2023/03/01/9c9bdc05-2377-4ffb-a8a0-885835edcaf1/2023-AFL-Tribunal-Guidelines.pdf On P.18 in examples of reportable offences, the Maynard charge of Rough Conduct: Careless Conduct, Severe Impact, High Contact the example is Patrick Dangerfield on Jake Kelly E1 2021: Remarkably similar to the Maynard on Brayshaw incident.

I think it's very likely we're working behind the scenes to promote with the AFL that head contact is out of the question and that Maynard should get his just desserts. It would be pretty hypocritical to challenge JVR's suspension at the same time

We eventually got what we wanted in Level 4 behind the PRE goals. Against Collingwood we had Row A but the metal bar obscures the view. The system kept trying to give us A again in all the Bays I tried until I guess some tickets sold. We're in B which should be better.

I feel your pain Katrina, but the nickname is an insult to innocent dogs.

Well gone Hibbo, the GF will be your 200th - go out with another flag!

Will it be a BG or a Disco that sees us Stayin' Alive this Friday Night Fever?

If they were ebullient we'd be hearing reports of "they don't care". Of course they're hurting, they know more than anyone what they let slip. I predict a big statement on Friday.

I think we need to play JJ for Gus, he's the next most capable mid we have and we need to re-establish the flexibility of pushing Petracca forward if we need to score to win. Sparrow and JJ will need to play substantial midfield minutes. We need to replace JVR with a tall, we were running with the minimum configuration of one ruck and 6 talls against Collingwood and we can't afford to go shorter. None of the options are ideal. With McKay out it's less imperative that we increase our defensive height, if he'd been playing I would have been in favour of Tomlinson. I think we've got Grundy, Schache or the Hail Mary of Turner forward. I think Grundy is the best of a limited set of options. As good as Max was against Collingwood, I think his "take from the ruck clearance" giraffe kicks, while they gain territory, are counter-productive, because they are too easy to defend. We need to rely on our gun midfield to win the clearance and kick more penetratingly. Grundy in the ruck can't hurt here. Max's major value is his contested marking and aerial contest. He needs to bring this, including forward, on Friday. That's what he signed up for in the Gawndy deal and the rubber is hitting the road. Laurie was off the pace in the full match heat against Collingwood. Maybe he learned enough to stand him in good stead against Carlton and hopefully the sub won't be needed so early. Frankly I would have recommended Harmes and his big body but I hear he did his hamstring in the scratch match. Spargo is an alternative with his smart delivery and he may be able to get his hands on it more if he comes on later when the heat has gone out. The partial Hail Mary of Turner as sub and then push Rivers into the midfield late has appeal to me. We could also then try Smith back, Turner forward late if we need a spark. I'm going with that. Out: Gus, JVR, Laurie (sub) In: JJ, Grundy, Turner (sub)

Not wholly, but it partly is why we lost, because it reduced our flexibility to push Petracca forward to score and that hurt us.

You've posted some batturd crazy stuff over the past 20 years or so both on Demonology and here, but you've really crossed the line with this unhinged commentary. Demonlanders should be ashamed? How about Collingwood supporters chanting "Collingwooood" as Gus goes off on the stretcher. Melbourne supporters are rightly incensed by what has happened and as time has progressed, instead of becoming more calm, even the most rational Demon supporters I know have become even more upset. Your suggestion that we should feel some sympathy for Maynard, a thug with a history of premeditated violence - see Ed Langdon's "all duck, no dinner" incident, who clearly came out with a will to inflict damage and did so - is deeply insulting. All our sympathy is rightly with Angus Brayshaw and his family. The incident had a material impact on the outcome of a critical match because it limited our flexibility to send Petracca forward to score. All as a result of an act that can most generously be described as reckless. You absolutely have the right to post your opinion and I have the right to criticise it. You need to take a good long hard look in the mirror and reflect on what you see..

We are paddling upstream now

Bridge Water ->

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Let's just imagine if this was Steven May on Jack Crisp ...

At home games when the team runs out we play the opening bars on Eminem's Lose Yourself: Look, if you had one shot or one opportunity To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment Would you capture it or just let it slip? We let it slip against Collingwood in that first quarter of the QF and have paid the price. It all comes down to that in this SF and beyond.

I would for Kossie though.

Good thread @dazzledavey36 As I've argued elsewhere, we not going to change our playing method unless we change our coach which is unlikely in the medium term. Our best approach is to upgrade our personnel to maximise the value of our method. We need more dangerous, damaging forwards. We need a true tall contested marking threat and that's Harry Petty. We seem to be trying to address the medium forward need with Shane McAdam. We also need more ground level genuine threat who can convert difficult opportunities in congestion like Kossie. Chandler is a good player and in a game style like Collingwood's he'd be a very effective weapon but in our game style he's hampered because he doesn't have truly elite skills. If Nick Watson can transfer his U18 impact to AFL level then I think he's exactly what we need. Paired with Kossie he'd be an additional threat in our F50 and make Kossie even better. Yes, I see @Lil_red_fire_engine comment that many of his highlights are marks on a lead, but he also very good at ground level - quick and evasive and is very good kick on both feet - in play and set shot. The focus would need to be on his ground level impact because clearly he has a separation and marking weapon but that's less functional in our game style.