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It's a vicious cycle. Very vicious...

We should take them to court if we don't get draft assistance on Monday, get the AFL to reveal to a Judge their secret formula, if it should have been applied in the last 2 years, and why it wasn't applied.

Get me two more mids better than Matt Jones and we might get there. Tyson, Jones, Vince, Cross, and Viney aren't enough.

He doesn't have to play AFL. It's not like he can't pursue his love of photography, and play footy with his mates anywhere, and be happy. He is using this need for 'change' of environment to get to his footy club of choice. It is BS.

I can understand the apprehension when it comes to Goodwin - I can relate. But "goodnight MFC" and "we deserve to go broke" (whatever that means) are just nonsense reactions to a coaching decision. The MFC survived Neeld and all that he entailed. We have survived worse than the last 8 years, and we have survived the last 8 years too... Nothing is black and white. He may not bring us a flag but I doubt Roos will let him be a failure... He has the respect of those who know a bit about footy and seems to value the right things - culture, relationships, etc - he deserves patience and faith because he is going to get those two things whether you like it or not and when it comes to assistants - who the bloody hell knows whether they good until they prove it in the job?

Leuenberger!

God I hate this term. Pedersen was a list clogger. Jetta was a list clogger.

Beats - if the contracts are front loaded for other players as well - that will, in itself, decrease the overall wages. It's very difficult to think this through.

I'm sorry? This is a Demons discussion forum, it is not some poorly conceived propaganda tool. It's up to Blease to convince people he is a good player, not thousands of supporters. Paul Roos says he hasn't a future here and that is what we are discussing. Can't say I disagree with him. He doesn't get enough footy for someone who only affects the game with ball in hand. And he is OOC, RM.

Hang up.

I was wondering why this was taking longer than the rumours suggested... Interesting.

This has got to be about either getting Goodwin before us or trying to mitigate the loss of players - Tex and/or Danger. Huge stuff.

If we are to get a pick for Clark from the AFL - that is draft assistance, that is a handout. And we won't if we 'deal' with any club. We should be able to deal Clark and get our draft assistance as well, but again, the rules are mere suggestions to the AFL...

What a list they are building down at Princes Park...

From the same draft as Watts. 7th year in 2014. Watts has done so much more than Blease and yet some have more patience for Blease.

Can't do that - he's a small business owner... FMD.

If they are so keen on McCartin then why would we bother? Just take Petracca at 2 and keep Pick 21.

If someone asked me what Jones cost - I would want quite a bit... The thing that the club has to remember is that Dangerfield is FA after his next contract. If he is convinced that he will go home, and Adelaide knows it - they should trade him now. They will get Pick 12ish for him next year. If they were to get a Top 3 pick and another good player (Toumpas, Trengove, et al) that is a good deal. In fact, Pick 3 for Danger Mouse is a good deal for Adelaide.

I don't think that was last minute. Roos called his folks prior to the trade period IIRC. I agree that it isn't ideal but the fact remains that rarely do players go to clubs on a whim in the last few days of trade week. One exception would be Mitch Clark... The are lined up weeks in advance and prepared and trade week is more about getting the deal done than convincing players to come.

"You'll go with that statement"? Isn't that the problem? They have a formula. That is secret. Devised by an economics professor. But the AFL Commission use their discretion to enforce that formula to give any assistance through the draft. What is the point of having a formula if you don't apply it in the event of having an habitually bad team - the reason for having the assistance in the first place. As you said - if any team qualified for assistance - we have over the last few years - which tells me that the rules in Aussie Rules are a mere suggestion. I don't for a minute believe that we have not qualified for assistance under their secret formula. Public Relations is their guiding star and, on that front, we are as poor as we have been on field for the last 8 years.

And when it comes to the AFL - there are no hard and fast rules, even when they have hard and fast rules. So maybe I am being ambitious and unfair asking a league to make independent decisions based on rules it devised to help it survive as a healthy, competitive league... All those clubs that don't want us to get help - they have nothing but their own selfish interests at heart - they could not care less about the health of the league.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-to-overhaul-its-draft-system-in-wake-of-tanking-controversies/story-fnca0u4y-1226450436364

When was this changed? At an AGM? In a press release? All they changed was the formula for clubs to 'qualify' for one and they decided to keep that new formula secret giving the AFL Commission with the final decision. This Mark Evans nonsense about it being there for 'tragic and extraordinary circumstances' is patronising and sad. When Troy Broadbridge was taken from us, PPs were given to Hawthorn a month before and Collingwood 11 months later, and we were allowed to select Shannon Motlop in a Pre-Season supplementary draft. Or much more recently - did Port Adelaide get a PP when tragedy befell John McCarthy 2 years ago? They did not get any assistance. It is a utter disgrace that he has tug at the heartstrings of AFL fans to try and make us look like heartless flogs to ask for PP. Draft Assistance is there for the betterment of the competition when teams are so terrible that they need help. All Jackson is asking is for the rules, that we all agreed to, and that we must play by, to be enforced appropriately.

There is a fair bit of subterfuge that goes into this stuff. Collingwood don't want to spend Pick 8 and clubs with the picks just before are the ones they want to create some doubt with. The competition doesn't end with the last siren on GF day - if a club is known to be taking a player no matter what, then other clubs will make you pay - one way or another...

People like Wilson and Barrett will now ask some tough questions to him, and about him, surrounding his involvement in the doping. Usually, the MFC baulk at the hard choice from a PR point of view so this is unusual. Again, it's welcome if he wins in 2017 and beyond, but the leash won't be long.