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Ooooooft, that would be humiliating.

Hahaha, you got me there, I saw that photo and was like ‘geez, Neeld has aged about 25 years’

Let’s be honest here, we should win by 50+ points. We were pretty clinical if not rusty against the dogs. We still put them away easier than the score line suggests. I was there and for the first time in my life, I wasn’t worried that we were going to lose at any time during the match. Bloody amazing feeling! The way the suns played last week was littered with errors against a WC team that had what, 16 players out? The Bulldogs are a waaaayyyyyy better side than Gold Coast. When I say we ‘should’ win, I’m more confident against better teams than I am against teams we might not respect. We lost to Collingwood and Adelaide last year because both teams went in harder and had more intensity than we did. We played like we just assumed it would happen. All teams will have a laser focus on how we do things this season. Hopefully we realise that every game is a tough game this year and that every team is going to come out HARD against us. We are the hunted now, we have to be ruthless and put these easier wins in the bank early as, the longer this season goes, opposition teams will have a chance to see what works against us from every opposition and they’ll adapt it into their own plans. Obviously I’ll take any win, but to be honest, I’ll be annoyed if we don’t slam this team as we bloody well should.

Is it just me or have Gold Coast not improved their skills or decision making abilities under Dew? Every game I watch of theirs (which to be fair isn’t regular), they seem to miss easy kicks and/or handball to players under pressure A LOT.

Agree a million percent. His off the ball work is immense. He constantly creates space in the forward line with bumps on defenders which gives our forwards an extra second of time. And you can tell that when a defender gets the ball… they’re looking for where Kozzie/Spargo is.

Yep 100%. Their best is definitely top 4 worthy.

Definitely. We didn’t win by much from memory. They play like a seasoned team in the attitude they have in that, they don’t seem to drop their heads and they just keep coming at you regardless of the score. Which is pretty impressive considering how young they are.

I like how Sydney plays a lot. They’re hard and have skilful youngsters. If they can keep their top players on the park this year, they could go deep into finals.

All good. No stress.

I cannot make my position any clearer to you. And at this point I can only assume you’re deliberately missing my point? The content of the conversations, is much, much, much, much worse in the cop situation. Obviously. I’m not comparing the severity of what they spoke about. *I’m criticising you, for saying that Tom Morris isn’t responsible for outing his co-worker, because he was having a private conversation* You’re using the action of a private conversation as a defence of Morris. Just like some people used the action of the UK met police, having a private conversation, as a defence. This is what the comparison is. Using the actions, which are the same, as a defence. You can’t defend Morris’ action, without defending the UK cops action. They’re exactly the same. You have said, that Tom Morris, isn’t responsible for outing a co-worker because, he was having a private conversation. Even though I’ve pointed out that he’s a journalist that would have extensive training in all forms of media. His job, is to find the very kinds of audio files, like the one he himself made and shared, (yes privately, which doesn’t matter if you’re a public identity), report it and write it up like has been done to him. The irony of a journalist losing their job by being exposed by the very thing a journalist in his field would be looking for, cannot be lost on you. I’m highlighting, that the actions, of having a private conversation about their job, in which the content is professionally damaging to himself and personally damaging to his co-worker that he outed (again, not comparable in what they were saying, but evidently both professionally damaging) doesn’t excuse a cop, or a journalist, from responsibility when, the predictable outcomes of their actions, come to fruition. What is incorrect about this? Please don’t say that I’m comparing what Tom Morris said and what the cops said. I’ve already dealt with this twice. I’m going hard on this because the outcome of Morris’ behaviour as a high profile journalist, has meant the outing of a persons sexuality for an entire nation to see. The mental health repercussions of this, could be devastating for a person. It’s not a joke and it’s not just mates having a chat. Morris is not the victim here. His co-worker is.

Would be a great own if I hadn’t already pointed out the difference in situations is the content of what they’re talking about. Unfortunately, as I highlighted, the actions are the same. Both, ‘private’ conversations that the culpable parties involved didn’t intend to be shared. So, they’re not responsible yeah? As the cops didn’t intend for the messages to be shared, as it was a private conversation? There was problematic content (again, on very different, incomparable levels) in both cases, but if you’re defending a journalists right to be shielded from responsibility from predictable outcomes because it’s a private conversation, then logically you would defend the two cops right to have a private conversation that they didn’t intend to be shared too. Unless, ya know, private conversations aren’t a good reason to commit professional malfeasance? But, I get it. It’s not nice for someone to point out the ugly logical extension of what you’re defending. All good.

Nah see this is absolute crap. He’s a journalist, that made a shareable piece of audio media that can be shared and now *HAS* been shared and uploaded to the internet (which millions of people can go and listen to it, FOREVER), completely off the back of his own actions. It doesn’t matter if he personally hasn’t made it public himself, he’s a public figure and a high profile journalist. It’s HIS actions that has made what could be a completely humiliating experience for his co-worker. He chose to create and send that codified audio media, his expectations that other people wouldn’t share it, goes to show how much he doesn’t care about sensitive information he’s sharing about people that are his co-workers. If you defend this, then you have to go onto defend the UK met police that shared ‘private’ messages of murder victims. They were also having private conversations that weren’t supposed to be made public. It’s the exact same situation, only the content is more intense. In fact, his actions are arguably worse (not in content, in actions) as he is a professional journalist that would be completely aware of the repercussions of creating audio media that can be shared/uploaded, and yet, he did it anyway.

Yeah there’s a couple of UK Met police that shared some photos in the exact same circumstances… I doubt people would argue the ‘privacy’ or workplace angle considering the photos were of deceased victims even though the circumstances are identical.

I don’t understand what’s confusing people about this situation. It’s pretty clear. A media organisation has to be seen as holding up certain moral standards or norms in line with societal expectations to both: 1. Commercial maximisation. All companies want to maximise the size of their audience/customer base to make more money from advertises in this case. Societal norms have progressed to the point where Morris’ comments are WELL against the norms and standards the majority of people now expect. If you go against these standards then (rightly in my opinion) you will lose advertises. Simple choice. Get rid of him. He’s now irreparably toxic from a commercial standpoint. 2. To not allow for their to be a culture of discrimination or the creation of a hostile work environment hence leading to lawsuits. Now, given Morris’ statements. It actually doesn’t matter if they were private or not from a workplace or media perspective. You can argue that most people have made comments like this in private… but… Most people aren’t public figures that represent a media organisation that explicitly operate on optics and advertising for money. Optics and him as a person are a part of his job. Don’t like it, don’t become a public figure. The fact is, they’re not private now. He’s a public figure and he represents a media company. So for Fox to keep him on would be opening themselves up to A LOT of legal and commercial consequences. If you aren’t prepared for the professional consequences of your words as a public figure, then, DON’T SAY SEXIST OR RACIST THINGS. Again, optics are a massive part of being a public figure in the media. Especially your words. You as a person are the job when you’re a public figure. Also, think about being his co-worker whom he’s now publicly sexualised and made her sexual orientation known to everyone which is HER BUSINESS ALONE. The mental health repercussions of outing peoples sexuality can be immense. Tom Morris is not the victim here. To re-iterate. If you’re a public figure working for a media company that works almost solely on optics, if you don’t like the consequences of your words affecting you professionally, just don’t say them. Otherwise, expect to be sacked. It’s simple.

Harmes was on the interchange for the grand final… if we are injury free, Dunstan and Harmes could be in competition? Brayshaw (who would be starting inside mid-fielder in any other team) is a winger in our team after all. Dunstan to me would be an ideal player to turn into a multi-role player that can relieve wing/mids/flank positions IMO

Have a look at Tracs speed in this clip. That’s Hunt he chases down! He’s running like an absolute Jet and with his power, he’s going to absolutely dominate this year.

I think about this often, are there players now that wouldn’t make it (and vice versa) if we were still playing with the more physical rules of eras gone by? Yes today’s players are much fitter, but if you got the current Melbourne team and then got this team magically in their prime and played a game of 80’s/90’s AFL rules…. Would the current team handle the physicality? Would the physicality be too much and the fitness advantage could be overcome?

Yeah I’m pretty sure the 2000 bombers team were at the time expected to win the 01’ flag at least and maybe more after their win. So I’m weary of making too big a statement just yet in regards to being mentioned with those teams in terms of how good we are. We definitely have the window and talent to do it. I’ve been told by non-dees fans that we are the most devastating team they’ve seen. A workmate said we are like Mitchell Johnson but as an AFL side. Can win a game of footy in 20 minutes of play, no matter how far down we are, that’s all we need. Not sure if that’s translates to exciting for non-dees fans, but I’ll take the most devastating team mantle for sure!!!

The removal of senior players before their time who are culture setters in a team of young up and coming players can quickly send a club into a death spiral. We pushed out James McDonald prematurely in a team that had a vastly overrated list (very poor drafting) as well as a host of other issues. I can’t say this was the sole reason why we went into our dark years, but it’s a lesson in maintaining players that are culture setters who’s job becomes making sure the next leaders are ready. These characteristics were the massive in the reasons we took Lewis and why Brisbane took Hodge. They were past their prime but Jesus, they both know what a good culture looked like and could coach on field. North getting rid of Petrie, Harvey and Firrito in one go. The games and experience behind these guys was immense. North’s biggest problem on field is looking like they’re leaderless at times from what I’ve seen. I know there’s an equation of blooding young players vs getting intellectual knowledge out of older players, but i think we’ve seen that just cutting the older players out in one go, doesn’t really translate into a sustained culture.

Yup. Weird thing about Scott’s signing is it’s almost guaranteed that season 2024 (Scott’s last year) they’re going to be on the cusp of a total list rebuild. They’ve boxed themselves in for having a tilt next year, which is just, not going to happen. Even if we weren’t as good as we are, I reckon the doggies would have smashed them in a granny this year. They are easily a level above Geelong.

I agree. I can see potential for Jackson being a Goodes/Blicsavs type player (not that Blicsavs is anywhere near Goodes as a player) that can player any position on the ground, regardless of if he turns into a full time ruckman. Even him as a Ruck/rover/forward/Wing/full back if need be, he will only get more powerful as his body develops and there’s nobody of his size that will out run or manoeuvre him in a couple of years. The kid could be anything.

If you watch the Oliver goal in the 3rd, Jacksons clean pick up and hand ball whilst almost running as fast as Oliver (Jackson isn’t sprinting at full pace) is crazy. He could be an Adam Goodes type player but more athletic and a much better ruckman, I honestly believe that. Some of the players say that at training, the things he can do athletically shouldn’t be possible for a guy of his size. And he’s probably 5 years off his absolute prime as a player. We could be on the eve of having one of the best midfield trio’s ever, if we can keep him and Oliver with Petracca.

You can hear the grief in his voice. He’s guttered. After our premiership dynasty is over, I’d love for the Saints to win one… then Carlton will be the club with the longest premiership drought. I know a few Carlton fans that deserve to have that mantle and I’m just the person to remind them of that anytime we talk footy, haha. Payback!

It’s conceivable that by the end of Scott’s 3 years, Geelong will have no: Hawkins Selwood Danger Stanley Smith Thouy Blicsavs (will be 34) Rohan (will be 33) Duncan (will be 33) Menegola (will be 33) Besides Stanley and Rohan (allergic to finals)… these are superstars or just out and out guns. Even Tom Stewart and Cameron will be 32 by the 2025 season. I don’t see how they’re not going to fall off a cliff.

Yeah I guess this is what I mean. I’m not saying that some friendly put downs to co-workers/oppo fans is out of bounds at all! But at games especially, there is a line between what you’ve pointed out of being proud/happy/supportive with how your team is doing is different than being belligerent/agro/constantly negative about opposition teams. Some of the worst games I’ve been too has been with Essendon/Hawks/Collingwood supporters in their prime and it just created a really negative atmosphere. Hyper aggressive. Which I guess I don’t want to emulate if the Dees have prolonged success. Sure some of them deserve it, but there’s also people that just want to go and watch their team play that aren’t [censored], so to create that negative atmosphere doesn’t sit right with me.