Ollie fan

I can't say how much I agree with this. We have completely gone down the wrong track, trying to emulate what other teams do when we don't have the correct players. Even if we could get it working, we would never be the best in the league at that game and to win the flag, you have to be the best. We should go back to strangling the life out of teams with contest, defence and power.

Windsor - not a defender Petty - back to attack Sparrow - murdered his opponent

Pretty much agree with all of this

I was there in 2018 with my daughter. Horrible night. As I recall it, OMac should have got a free for a block but it was Taxpayer Park so no chance. Leaving the ground, the Geelong supporters were absolutely horrible - worse than Collingwood supporters. No magnanimity at all, just nasty. I have hated them ever since.

When he was on Toby Greene, I think Toby had his number - not that that is any disgrace. But I don't think he was very good defensively against GWS.

Or when McVee is back

In my view, this would be a real concern. Windsor is a terrific player, but I am not at all convinced that he is a half back, particularly defensively, and Geelong's half forwards are extremely dangerous and need close checking. I don't think Howes is the answer either, but would rather rely on Salem, rivers and Bowser as smaller half backs.

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You would think that but if they are directed to position themselves in a certain way, they are expected to follow that instruction.

The Jeff White analysis is ultra-interesting, and confirms what I had started to think: Jones is not the man for the job sand the quicker we realise it, the better. As Adam the God said, we are playing exactly like he used to, but with our midfield, that is so wrong. Also agree that the players are not running to offer leads etc - usually a sign of dissatisfaction with the coach, but which coach? Richardson needs to get involved.

More and more I'm looking at our midfield coach. He was brought in for PR really but we are getting shellacked in the clearances so there are no good forward opportunities and too much pressure on the defence. And the players look very unhappy - why is that?

Yes, thank you, that was exactly my point. I would FAR rather watch us win 71-64 in a " boring defensive style " than watch us play fast, outside football and lose by 5 goals. Now, about our midfield. In his presser, Goody said our midfield system wasn't working, and that is obviously true. Much as he was a greatly-loved player, should we be looking at our first-year midfield coach?

What was one of the more interesting and objective threads on Demonland has, like so many others, been hacked by the "let's bag Goody" brigade. Such a shame. On a more objective note, why does everyone seem to want us to play the "modern game" of fast movement etc? If we choose to play that way, don't we have to become the BEST at it if we want to win a flag? And if we're are starting from behind in terms of playing personnel, skills etc, then our chances of becoming the best are slim or nil. Wouldn't it be better to play our own game of contest and defence, and rely on that to be capable of beating the alternative game style?

Sorry mate, I still don't get your point - I THINK you are disagreeing with me but crikey, you are making a terrible job of it. Bulldogs got a flag 9 years ago and I C an talking about much more recent history than that. You might not have noticed, but a lot of outsiders think their list has been the best in the league. Certainly, plenty of people think that Brisbane have got a GREAT list - actually, they do - and they have had one flag (20 years ago is ancient history). Others think the same of Carlton - no flags. Geelong have been thereabouts for ever - many many prelims - one flag in the last 15 years. Sydney - always there, no recent flags. Apart from last year we have been super-competitive, with a very good list. End of story. If you want to comment, can you do so in a way that we can understand?

I think you are having a go at me but honestly, can't you do better than that? My point was: the amount of times I read on this absolutely c..p thread that Good has wasted a list, the likes of which have never been seen before on earth or in heaven. Which is such rubbish. We have had a strong list with a number of superstars. In the same period, so have WB, Brisbane, Carlton, Sydney.... two of which are empty-handed.