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At least a fully outstretched Brown is a big target, makes it a bit easier to get it somewhere in his wingspan. As has been mentioned countless times, if he comes and takes a good defender, it frees up the Weid a little. If Weid is on fire and takes the number one defender, Brown gets let off the hook. How many teams have two elite defenders that could contain them both individually?

Fritsch gets plenty of looks at goal and he doesn’t crash packs

A lot of this is very relevant to our club. We have not had a strong and successful culture for a long, long time. I think May has been the first player to actually hold people accountable on field and demand better. The Trac, Oliver, May, Langdon, Lever combo could shape this club for the next 50 years - up to them whether they want to

This is the bit that seems off about the whole thing, Oliver could walk into any team so it would make sense to go to Saints, Dogs or Pies if he wants a Vic side. They all could use his help and will be a lot more likely to guarantee finals I doubt the B&F result is the thing that has him miffed, but I think there’s probably been enough evidence in his body language early on that he was unhappy

Would be nice to land Tippa, reports suggest he might be sniffing around too!

Thinking about the difference Langdon made, it’s exciting to imagine what 2 wingers will do for us

Oliver is definitely good at padding out his stats, looks good that he gets 30+ each week, but he could be so much more damaging with 20 & 2-3 goals. There was a few weeks where Oliver started to really drive forward, but it didn't last too long. Dustin Martin rarely has really huge possession numbers, but give him chance of space and he will hurt you, badly.

BT would have had a heart attack calling that much candy being sold

Known commodities to play specific roles versus unknown kids, it's a sensible play

Agree, but would take their record over the last 10 years of playing finals most years. They are always there about

Wasn't it stated recently that Oliver likes stability and continuity? Another full overhaul of the football department and assistant coaches is anything but that. Realise we are all just adding fuel to the fire, but the people that emphatically declare he won't leave are just as likely wrong as those suggesting he may be sounding other teams out.

Maybe he loves winning more than all those other things and sees a better chance of that happening elsewhere? It's all hypothetical of course, but plenty of people love partners and leave, love jobs and leave etc. If Carlton were to double his income and guarantee it for 5+ years, that would be something you could learn to love

When we target opposition players that are contracted, do you still believe this?

Interestingly, I have been keeping one eye on the Cripps situation for this very reason. For those who don’t know, Cripps partner has some serious health concerns and there is suggestions of heading home to WA to assist her. If Cripps goes home, you can bet Carlton will have cash and will want the best ball winner they can find (Oliver) If things go totally pear shaped and Clarry did walk, it would be him instigating it, not the MFC. It is not too hard to see that they could improve quite rapidly and accelerate past us. They have some elite big men and are not afraid to target big fish after years of picking up GWS off cuts. Perhaps this is what prompted the panicked call to his management from Petracca? If we all hope for changes in our midfield over the offseason to fix the balance and end up with 5 more years of Viney, but lose Clarry, I’m out. I can’t possibly accept that. I think we’ve all been a little concerned that missing finals could prompt a raid on our couple of top Enders. This could be and likely is just be a beat up based on the McClure comments, or maybe Gary Lyon thinks we’d all be shocked if Brayshaw goes to Perth? I’d hardly call that a ‘bombshell’ though

Of the 800 odd blokes that call themselves AFL footballers, there’s bound to be a few that don’t fit the mould. Getting shunted from the club that traded for him should be the kick up the bum he might not have realised he needed. If he can contribute each week, I don’t know that it will really matter whether he is everyone’s best mate. Finally, He’s up against no other specialist winger, so we are already ahead as soon as he pulls on a jumper

I’d argue Clarry and Trac are more easily replaceable than May, but wouldn’t trade any of the 3. I reckon the ruck role is less significant than ever, so Max could be done for the right deal

Big step up to the top four from these two teams, never been more evident

One of the biggest differences between Lions, Tigers, Eagles, Power and the rest is the whole team buying in. They all play as a group. Complete belief in what they are doing. We are miles off that, all our wins have been on the back of 2-3 individuals having good games. We don’t go out with the unity and desire to perform the task that those top four do

It was fairly obvious he was carrying more bulk now than 2018, he looks so heavy and really labors around. The interesting thing will be whether it was a club directive or if he took it upon himself? I said previously, if the club directed him to do so, he has every right to be furious with them. Looks like it will be a moot point, but I still don't think he is the answer either. He doesn't have any tricks and isn't a physical player

Could not agree with this more. Forget about Jackson as a permanent tall forward and let him be whatever the hell he wants/the coaches want on any given day. I really hope they keep him fairly lean and try and play him as a high half forward who has license to roam anywhere. He can take Melksham's spot and give Half Back Flankers nightmares for the next 2 years. This is why I am strongly in the get Brown/Gunston camp. Weid is starting to command a good defender, if we can get someone else who command the same, then Jacko as a 3rd tall is a dream setup for us

That trio or Rozee, Duursma and Butters are good to watch, they back themselves to take the game on and often it pays off

Power had too much intensity for the cats, they were overawed. Geelong seem to have the same issue as us with a whole lot of contested ball guys, yet not much polish

If anyone here has used GPS watches or computers for cycling or running, they are definitely not reliably accurate. Im not sold that Salem is our quickest for the year

Fogarty seems like a mini Tex, built like Tarzan and play like Jane.

Understand the role they are trying to give him, just don't see it in him. He was all but finished as a player at the end of 2019, so 2020 was a bonus.