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Professional pride perhaps. I know money and an income are important but I’d like to think that playing is the most important thing in your career. Why play in the 2’s if you can hold down a spot on another team even if it is for less money.

This trade is far from certain and will go down to the wire.

I think his drug bust completely stuffed his trade value (and his salary expectations). A second rounder is the most they could expect so Pick 23 is probably the best they could hope for in the circumstances.

Just listening to Mahoney. My take: We’re in for Phillips Treloar unlikely but he didn't rule it out. Gave the impression a lot will need to play out to make it possible.

I didn't catch while listening but I’ve googled and found this on fox sports. Pretty sure this is what they were talking about. PIES’ KEY 2021 PICK ON THE TABLE Collingwood are reportedly open to parting with their 2021 first-round draft pick, in another sign the club is set to be one of the most active this trade period. Foxfooty.com.au has confirmed AFL Media‘s report that the Pies would be willing to deal for its future first-round selection, given the club is set to pickup father-son prodigy Nick Daicos, who could go with pick No.1.

Unless his injuries are terminal I reckon there will be clubs prepared to take a punt. I think it’ll be a question of how much of his salary we’re prepared to pay to move him on. I reckon we’ll have to cough up half or so. More than that and I think he’s probably worth keeping as depth.

I listened to the post interview discussion and fan call in which centred mainly on Stephenson. He didn’t disclose anything new regarding Treloar other than it’ll be difficult to bring players in unless he is moved out. Doesn’t sound like they are interested in TMac. No mention of Tom Phillips There was a reference to the first round pick being on the table. Didn’t catch whether this years or next.

goddam. just tuned in for the interview and its finished. must have got the time wrong. sure i heard 12.30 earlier. I'll look out for a report of the interview.

will do

Ned Guy is lined up for a 12.30pm slot on trade radio today. I'll be tuning into that interview for sure.

My estimation of Mahoney would go through the roof if he can construct a deal for Menegola. You’d think Gus would have to be sacrificed and TMac’s salary freed up to make it happen though. I haven’t heard any whispers whatsoever linking him to us so its just wishful thinking for now but if he gettable then we should take a hard look.

Good shout. I can’t think of a player we’ve let slip through our fingers who’s had a greater impact elsewhere. Imagine if we had Papley running around for us now.?

I love your optimism ?

His wasn't a bad kick in a time when we weren't over endowed in that area....but let's not go there ?

I’d argue trading in a future bnf winner for pick 23 beats is a better bargain than the watts for pick 31 Fritsch deal. Of course with time the Fritsch could prove better.

I'd throw Bernie Vince in there as a very good trade. He was a BNF after all. We’ve traded pretty well over the journey. I mean, those busts aren’t exactly Fev to Brisbane or Lovett to St Kilda Our drafting (and probably development) is what let us down for many years.

Brown will likely cost a second rounder and Smith was a FA. I would say that’s very inexpensive business. TMac gets a lot of love and justifiably so. He’s a good sort and we all wish things could have turned out differently but he’s no longer best 22. The FD have moved on from Tmac in a defensive role a long time ago. With Brown joining the forward set-up he’ll play a bit part role at best. It doesn’t suit us to have a high earning back-up. I don’t think its fair on Tom to keep him as back-up. I don’t think he wants to be back-up. We should work with his manager to ensure a trade gets done. If we have to pay a chunk of his salary so be it. It's the right time for TMac to seek pastures new. If he moves and shows good form next year I’ll be very happy for him.

I'd like to know what @Dr evil take on this is? What's your intel telling you?

To summarise: We’ll back in a number of our players: “We’ll back in a number of players we have on our list currently, and give more opportunities to the likes of Oskar Baker, James Harmes, Jayden Hunt and Adam Tomlinson who can all play a similar type of role” But consider opportunities should they present themselves - “Like every Trade/Draft Period, we are looking to improve our list, we are looking at completing some trades during this period, but you never quite know how active you will be until Trade Period starts. There are going to be a lot of scenarios thrown up on the whiteboard, and as we do every Trade Period, we’ll try to walk out at the end knowing our list is stronger and that we’ve given ourselves a good opportunity to be better as a team again next year” I think he’s just joshing. He's given himself plenty of latitude to chase any targets that emerge without sign posting our intentions to other clubs.

What do you think is the right price AF?

Typically I only to see Melbourne games but this year, with the boredom of lockdown, I’ve watched pretty much every game in the league. As such, my perception is heavily biased towards this year.

For this deal to be worthwhile there needs to be some non-negotiables for mine Phillips (or another specialist wingman) is the preference. He fills a greater need so wouldn’t prioritise Treloar over Tom. $450-$550k salary. Term 3-4 years Must not compromise our TPP. We have to be able to re-sign Clarry et all. I’m not against trading out Brayshaw if needs be for a game changer but not to accommodate this deal. Thorough medical. Those hammy’s are a concern. His family situation doesn’t impact his football. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that last year was an aberration and his output will return to pre-covid levels. Way way too much hassle imv.

Sorry Hannibal. I was being a smart [censored]. I should have used a smiley emoji or similar But seriously his kicking is average. If we're to invest precious cap it needs to be elite imv. He may spread well but if he doesn't use it well then i don;t think it makes much difference. Even if he's average and we somehow agree reasonable contract terms (big if) we shouldn't take him on. Find someone elite who can make a real difference if we're going to go through all the hassle.

Butchering his kicks?

Fair points particularly bnf placings. Last year was so weird and unnatural, hub life and all the rest of it so perhaps you could argue its just an outlier. But it was a big drop-off! You’d want to be pretty sure it won’t repeat considering the outlay involved and all the other factors to be resolved to make this happen. I just don’t think he adds a whole more than we already have. We have greater needs. I'd rather we focus on those than get distracted by the Treloar circus.