Gawndy the Great

Now before I get into this I’m well aware that it’s only round 5 and the Suns may not have beaten a worthy opponent. However I’m surprised why there are no questions being asked on the dramatic turn in form and game style of this team. Yes it’s good for the game but they have already equaled their 2019 wins. Step in Rowell - he is a genuine star and game winner, can’t deny that but you cannot tell me that one 18 year old kid is at the heart of this as I just won’t buy it. You need to remember the majority of this team has not changed. These guys were bottom of the ladder and it was this time last year they were being faced with a mass exodus of players according to the media. It was also no secret that Matt Rowell was going to be a number 1 pick. Not just a promise but a guaranteed superstar and maybe a once in generation prospect. What this kid has put on show has not been a disappointment and he’ll definitely win a few Brownlow’s if nothing short of a disastrous injury doesn’t get in his way. So how does one explain this compelling turn of events? Is it the coaching prowess of a 2nd year senior coach? Is It the natural maturing of a side that has been lost for years and has been gutted of it stars? Or is It something more malicious at play here? What do you think Demonland?

Oliver was meant to be the next Voss. He has stagnated in growth or has been found out... don’t know which but he is not top 5 by a long shot - would probably be lucky to be top 50. Granted his inside game is phenomenal and ability to clear the inner contest is equally great. However he lacks vision beyond the contest and cannot make a play, break a line or kick intelligently. Don’t get me wrong, he is good - but not great.

We need outside class.

1. Not out of form but the game is possibly past them. 2. Maybe they are just one dimensional? Neither of them can kick particularly well. Just good in the contest. They are both turnover kings on foot. Frosty just diverted attention away from them. 3. Stoppage needs work. I have to say that Gawn was worked over nicely by Pinochet after the 1st quarter.. that is more worrying if you ask me. His second and third efforts were inspiring. We were 200+ pressure points in Q1 which is why we were so successful in 2018. What happened after that is mystifying given we were supposedly the fittest team in the afl according to some. Maybe we just don’t have the cattle or the right balance of cattle to play that game style. If we can play with that intensity for 4Q then we are a force to be reckoned with...

I agree but he is mfc supporter and it must take great resolve to hold back as much as he does. If it was me...

Out: Goodwin In: Richo

We were never going to win that game. Maybe had a chance if the game was played in Melbourne and game was full length. i50 delivery has not changed but it was never going to in 1 preseason. What’s more worrying is the defensive 50 and two way running effort.

Typical Gawn looks cooked, we are missing set shots and goalless quarters.

Does Viney or Milkshake get rubbed out?

how Much do we read into this game? We are playing the same brand as last year... cannot see anything different.

Still playing like 2019. Bad kicking can’t get ground ball. And missing 2nd quarters.

I’ll take that... even if it isn’t true

Anyone know what the typical 3 km time is. I just ran 16 flat but am 39 with a crook back. Still knackered.

Corporate spends big money in this arena so it’s not surprising to see it spreading to the footy industry. Getting the right data insights can put you ahead of the curve. But that’s only half the equation - it’s what you do with it that matters. Will Goodwin be brave and bold enough to take action?

My understanding is that a player can not nominate a salary that is front loaded. It’s a number x number of years. He could still potentially say 1 year 800k and have an in Gentleman’s agreement with thE Blues, but that puts both parties in very vulnerable positions.

Is this an attempt to scrape the bottom of the barrel for salary cap space? Granted they wouldn’t have been on much but should at least give us about 200-250K?

So SEN reporting that the Hawks will go after Noah Anderson via pick 2. I hope those in AFL house have contemplated this and how unjust it would be to manipulate the draft so that the player we would have rightfully got will end up at the hawks..I just cannot swallow that.

Also dont forget Hodge is AA captain. Leaders of his ilk, dont come to often. Lewis was never a leader/director - he just played with a few.

He would demand a long term 7 figure salary to wheel him away from GWS. Lets assume we pushed ahead with all of the trades planned this year and we still fell short of the outside silk that is missing. And let's assume we would be pushing up against the cap next year. Where could we get money from to make that trade happen, because believe me, he is worth every single penny. 1. Retire Jonesy - there is 350- 400K 2. Put one of Brayshaw / Petracca / Viney on the trade table - there is another 500 - 700 K there. 3. Possibly look at moving on AVB or J. smith depending on contributions. Possibly another 300K. Youd also need to make adjustments to cater for anyone else coming out of contract and on next year. That is how you could probably get an immediate 1.1M possibly even more if we had the ability to front load to reduce the pressure on future player contract renewals. What say you Demonland - would you make that offer? I'm also not sure whether he'd be RFA or whether we need to put in some picks to sweeten the deal. But that wouldn't necessarily be an issue as we could offer the player of the 2nd point above.

Looks like some of the crew are already training and getting ready for 2020....looking at their insta accounts...

100% agree. Yes he is entertaining, frost ball and all and I do love his dash out of the back line. But let's be honest Frosty leaks goals and plays an unaccountable defensive game at times (defending in front, running off his man etc). He is a run of the mill key defensive position player. 2nd rounder to swap for Langdon.

2020 leadership group. Max Gawn - captain Steven May, NevJet, Milkshake and Viney. Not sure who'd I'd get as VC though.

Trusty Tom Browne seems to think we are the favourite. Interesting to hear Roosy on the couch think he's not what we need.

Maybe... but I look at what successful teams do...take Melbourne Storm and this camp. We are a mentally fragile team, anything we can do address this, we must do, even if its managing the optics of looking weak by ot going to this camp.

The problem is how we fit these guys into the salary cap and how we manage those coming out of contract this year. Someone remind plz if we delist a contracted player for medical reasons I.e Avb or KK, do we take a hit on salary cap with the payout? Cos that's the only way we could land Langdon and Tomlinson ... cant imagine how we get Laird in.